You're managing any ATG in an imagined ATG stacked division...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Dec 16, 2008.


  1. stonerose

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    what about hagler then ?
    and my controversial g-man avoidance seems to be diverting people from the real purpose of the thread, which is a good'un. lets see some more.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    McClellan was on the steady decline post-Steward. He was already past his prime and I seriously doubt he'd have been any dominant or even consistently top level fixture had he continued, probably would've floundered out a few years later to be honest. Quite overrated, especially from a technical standpoint, and made for counter punchers like Jones, Hopkins, and Toney stylistically. Particularly quick, powerful movers like Jones. A very slim puncher's chance would be all he'd have stood IMO.
     
  3. stonerose

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    I don't think he was on the decline, it hurt him when Manny went but this doesn't mean he wouldn't have got better had he stuck with Manny or got a better trainer than that fella in the hat.
    Dunno how a guy on the decline could still put up such a great ( albeit losing )performance as he did against Benn. This is generally considered one of the best fights of modern times, i reckon it is THE best fight of the last 20 years myself and think it would be considered as such if it wasn't for the tragic ending .
     
  4. McGrain

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    I think this is a slight mis-read on your part. What is it about a murderous punching aggressive attacking fighter with a very good chin that you think would be easy for Jones? I think it's just the type of fighter to make things awkward for the peak version, make him uncomfortable. I agree that Jones's counterpunching style would win the day, but you don't see some alarming moments early doors?



    Anyway, Harry Greb


    I'm avoiding

    Dick Tiger - I may have overestimated his chances in the past, but I still think that Greb is to aggressive to enjoy fighting Dick Tiger

    Bernard Hopkins - Harry would ship to many hard shots on the way in for me to be comfortable with this one.


    But nobody can compain -

    Feb - Holman Williams
    March - Mickey Walker
    Nov - James Toney
     
  5. stonerose

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    Cheers McGrain, someone who sees my point of view . Phew .
     
  6. stonerose

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    Lennox Lewis

    Avoid ....


    Ali - Too quick and awkward for Lennox, i think he'd make him look a bit silly and lumbering.

    Peak Mike Tyson - I think we'd see a simlar result as what happened against Mccall , a knockout of Lewis, whatever condition he came to the ring in. Mobile, in your face and throwing fast and hard combinations would be too much for Lewis i reckon


    But......

    George Foreman ( slower version of Lennox i reckon )
    Joe Frazier
    Rocky Marciano
     
  7. My dinner with Conteh

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    If I was Lennox I would avoid Holmes. A better jab, tall and with an excellent chin.
     
  8. Holmes' Jab

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    Lewis - Tyson is near enough 50/50, but I 'd go for Lewis if push came to shove.
     
  9. stonerose

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    Yeah , Holmes v Lewis would be a brilliant fight between two giants .
     
  10. My dinner with Conteh

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    Great choice. Fullmer also? Definitely an unnecessary risk fight, especially seeing as though he even turned boxer in the second Tiger fight, to Dick's bemusement, and was by every account unlucky not to receive the duke.
     
  11. Holmes' Jab

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    I actually think Lewis matches up well enough against 70's Ali. Liston would be a tricky one for him, potentially Walcott too (providing he survives the early skirmishes).
     
  12. McGrain

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    It made Tiger livid when fighters turned boxer agains him. I know all fighters ***** about decisions they lose, but I firmly believe that Tiger was disgusted when boys beat him by "running away".

    I'd be less worried about Fullmer than Tiger, but yeah, another one that might not be on the menu. Tiger was such a beast at the weight, crazy discipline that kept him at 160 for so long. Was it the Downes fight where he had to rip off four pounds at the weigh in?
     
  13. Holmes' Jab

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    To be fair this would be very close. Lewis' power and the fact he's a finer blend between a boxer and puncher would stand him in good stead. I can't see Larry being stopped, though even with Lewis' power and Larry won't stop Lennox I don't think.


    Holmes close UD, only a few rounds in it.
     
  14. Holmes' Jab

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    How about Hagler for Greb?
     
  15. My dinner with Conteh

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    Yes, but then Dick decided it was a pretty good option vs Torres at 175. :D

    Who wouldn't? Any middleweight brawler is best avoiding Tiger like he had leprosy. :cool:


    Not sure mate. I don't think it was the Downes fight though.