Zab has lost all of his BIG fights? Is this a BIG fight?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ElTrigueno, Jul 22, 2011.


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  1. ElTrigueno

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    Tzysu- Loss (Hall of Famer)
    Spinks- Loss (not a bad fighter at the time with a 32-2 record)
    Baldomir- Loss (awful performance by Judah)
    Mayweather- Loss (future Hall of Famer)
    Cotto- Loss (possible future Hall of Famer)
    Clottey- Loss

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    Amir Khan (notables)

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    Prescott (if you want to call him a notable)
    Barrera
    Kotelnyk


    I think you can gain more insight from being in the ring with Hall of Famers and future Hall of Famers than not.

    Judah faded in the Mayweather fight. Who doesn't. He fought with the pre-Margarito Cotto tooth and nail for 11 rounds, which not many were able to do at that time.

    Let's compare a few things; some of Judah's recent fights were against; Santa Cruz, Mabuza, Ubaldo Hernandez, Ernest Johnson, and Lucas Matthysse. Let's not fool ourselves, Matthysse probably beats Maidana. He has much better technique than Maidana, and can box with power. Mabuza, Santa Cruz, Hernandez, and Johnson are just as comparable, if not more comparable to any of these guys on Khan's stats.

    Can we really consider this a BIG fight? Khan is up and coming. There is no doubt about that. The young guys definitely going to be the face of the sport soon. Judah was always considered to be game for any opponent and he sure found a way to mess things up for himself on numerous occasions.

    About the chins, Khan has been KO'd once and it was real bad. Judah has been KO'd by Tszyu which was also very bad. He's been KO'd by Cotto as well. These guys have probably 2 of the worst KO losses in the sport. Does that make them both chinny? 25 or 26 pro fights for Khan and only 1 KO loss? Almost 50 pro fights for Judah and 2 KO losses?

    I've made my bet for Super Judah in this one. I've bet for him many times in the past, and I've lost a few of them, but I think he's got this one. I do not care for Khan much at all, but at the same time, I respect what he's doing in the boxing world. I believe he's bitten off more than he can chew right now, but at the same time, he took the fight when many in the sport don't take many chances anymore.
     
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  2. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    He did avenge the spinks loss~ I am not convinced that Khan has what it takes to beat Judah, thats why we have this fight.... I honestly think Zab has made a steady consistant real come back to the sport, he seems to be mentally in a better place.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You're forgetting that he has looked like diseased excreta in his last two appearances.

    He deserved to lose to Matthysse, and ought to have been trailing on the cards against Mabuza before his uppercut bailed him out.

    Judah at his best I wouldn't think should be as big an underdog to Khan as he is. Current Judah is not Judah at his best, and is very much a rightful underdog.
     
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  4. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He beat Spinks the second time around.
     
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  5. Green Man

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    He lost to every top fighter he faced and my guess is that he will lose again.

    But like everyone that fights Khan he has a punchers chance but thats about it.
     
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  6. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    cotto is a hall of famer...

    that being said, i agree w/ bazooka. judah seems to be in a better place. underdog yes, but he's very live imo
     
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  7. ElTrigueno

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    No I definitely agree that it was not looking too good in the Mabuza fight, and I do see the Matthysse fight going either way, but it was too close to say decisively that one won over the other. I don't think it was as bad as the Williams-Lara decision.
     
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  8. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    this fight doesn't smell of an upset to me in the least. I see a pretty easy night's work for Khan.
     
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  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    yeah not all, he did stopped spinks so he just lost 6 of his 7 notable fights.

    the thing is, since judah dropped to 140, he's been on a roll and gaining his confidence back. don't know if this would be enough for him to beat khan who has improved much since 135.
     
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  10. UpperCut2

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  11. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    If khan did not have a bad chin the outcome of this fight would be clear, people seem to think there is a good chance of his power bailing him out again, he will lose rounds vs khan based on activity, making khan look bad when fighting like a poor mans whitaker isnt enough to win rounds.
    But he still has a decent punchers chance and its a unification fight.
     
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  12. ElTrigueno

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    Did the green man knock out that big guy in your avatar?
     
    ElTrigueno, Jul 22, 2011
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  13. Green Man

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    Spark Out.

    Green Man is an ATG puncher.
     
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  14. UpperCut2

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    Mickey Ward
    DeMarcus Corley
    Junior Witter
    Could've ALL beaten Khan at the same stage in career when they faced Judah.

    Jan Bergman
    Terron Millett
    We're both light welterweight champions.

    All the above would qualify as
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  15. dru626

    dru626 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is a big fight, and Khan will UD Judah
     
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