Zab Judah had Miguel Cotto hurt bad

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MichiganWarrior, Nov 5, 2010.


  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    LOL. No. Another **** poor analysis from you. Watch the actual fight. Its actually a great blueprint of why Pacquiao was always going to whip Cotto's ass. Pacquiao would be what Judah could be if he had stamina and heart.

    Cotto was wide open for the let hand all night, towards the end of the 3rd round Judah is blasting Cotto repeatedly with nothing but the same shot everytime, it lands constantly to Cotto's chin and sternum. When Cotto low blows Judah he is bleeding profusely from his mouth.

    Many Steward even says it, "Cotto is wide open for the left, Judah just wont throw"

    It was clear the difference in the fight, was Judahs willingness to throw. Cotto had absolutely no defense for the left hand, and if Judah had the mentality of a Pacquiao he would have blasted Cotto out of there.
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    He Had Cotto hurt.
    He was beating Tzyu for one round.
    He won four rounds against Mayweather.

    Why do the Judah nutthuggers continue to bring this **** up like it means something? In the end of the day Judah lost to every top fighter he faced and you Zab groupies need to accept once and for all that theres nothing super about Judah.
     
  3. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Im not a Judah fan ***. Never have been. Given Zabs in a make or break fight tomorrow, it might be relevant to discuss him as a boxer.

    If you dont want to im sure there is another ban bet you could be losing somewhere else.
     
  4. Jack

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    And a chin? And brilliant footwork? And great combinations? And punch variety? And the ability to effectively pressure? And be able to fight on the back foot?

    I could go on.

    To suggest that Judah is Pacquiao without stamina or heart is absolutely ridiculous. Judah was never close to being as talented as Pacquiao currently is.
     
  5. Jack

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    Exactly. His career is built upon "what ifs" and people like MichiganWarrior, who look at his fast hands and think he's talented, rely upon those tiny moments, to keep on building him up, every time he gets beaten.

    Judah was never more than a C-class fighter.
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

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    First off. Pacquiao only has maybe 3 of those. He's not great at pressuring as shown in the Cotto fight and he's not great fighting off the back foot as shown in the 1st Morales fight.

    Judah can punch from any angle, when he believes he has a fighter hurt this is one of the few times he opens up, and his combinations are blistering, Pacquiao has the rare gift to maintain it more then any fighter I've seen, however Judah seems unwilling since atleast his 140lb prospect days to ever let his hands go in any situation where a fighter is not hurt, even though he is clearly superior in speed and power.

    Of course, because he lacks stamina and heart. Judah is every bit as fast as Pacquiao, and every bit as powerful. He just doesnt throw.
     
  7. EL CABALLO

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    :lol::roll:
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

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    Judah is incredibly talented from an athleticism point of view. He has amazing speed and pop. His counter uppercut is the best in the game today. Its almost a guaranteed knockout against inferior fighters, and against B and A level fighters he's rocked more then a few with it. If he wasnt supremely talented there is no way he'd be able to execute such a difficult punch that requires timing, precision and awareness on a completely different level.

    You think a Kessler or a Froch could pull off this punch? Hell no.

    B level fighter for most of his career. B- C+ since moving up to Welter. C- fighters are usually the ones he takes out.
     
  9. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    No you're just a ***.

    And i wasnt singling your immature slave ass out i was talking about Judah fans in general its not my problem that your over sensitive loser ass gets butthurt everytime someone says something you dont agree with.
     
  10. Jack

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    So boxing is as simple as having stamina, heart, power and speed?

    What about ****ing talent? Judah is not CLOSE to Pacquiao, seriously. He was outboxed and outfought by Baldomir, you clueless twat. Pacquiao is a top 50 fighter of all-time.

    They are incomparable.

    And don't say "Judah lost to Baldomir because he doesn't have the heart" because we all know that's bollocks.
     
  11. Jack

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    Athleticism, yes, but what about talent? Plenty of fighters have fast hands and good power but it doesn't mean they are good fighters. Judah was never a skilled boxer, ever. Even against fighters he should be blitzing, he has rarely looked like as skilled fighter.
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

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    Ouch. You got me.

    Like who?



    You're response in this thread was totally unnecessary if it wasnt aimed at me, considering there are no judah fans who have appeared in this thread?

    This isnt another "black fighter must hate" scenerio for you is there? Really there is no cause for your hostility in a mere analytical thread.
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    If you cant read I'll repeat, the counter uppercut executed to the high degree of which Judah is able to execute the punch, requires both supreme athleticism and skill.

    Perhaps you didnt read how I explained it requires expert timing and awareness?


    This guy has knockouts galore. He's not a big guy, so the fact that he has so many one punch KO's and has been able to rock fighters like Cotto and Mayweather is owed to the fact that even if he's not 100% mentally focused throughout the fight, fades with the slightest bit exertion, and shells up when hit, he still somewhere can pull of mementary feets of supreme skill and athleticism.
     
  14. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Anyone else find it ironic that a guy that only roots for black fighters and hates on anyone else specially white european fighters is always pulling the race card out of his ass and accusing others of being racist? I sure do.
     
  15. MichiganWarrior

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    Its funny you only stop by to hate on black fighters. When this isnt even a thread praising Judah, just analysing his abilities, deficiencies and fight with Cotto before his make or break fight tonight.

    But maybe you saw my name in the title and your ****** ass had to stop in for a chat? :rofl