Zab Judah or Glen Johnson.... who accomplished more?

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  1. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Both struggled at the top level but had some decent wins. Who accomplished more?
     
  2. raichu

    raichu Guest

    picked johnson cause his jamaican

    jamaica land me love
     
  3. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Picked Johnson because I like him more and therefore is better in every way possible.
     
  4. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Surprisingly I was expecting more to vote judah
     
  5. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People have reasons to not like Judah, who doesn't like Johnson?
     
  6. MarioBrothers

    MarioBrothers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    johnson had the better wins
     
  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Have to go with Glen.
     
  8. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnson has that everyday man humility . Zab acts like a spoilt child.

    Which one would you vote for?
     
  9. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its a hard pick really

    Zab Judah

    won 42 (KO 29) + lost 7 (KO 3) + drawn 0 = 51

    Age : 35

    Titles won

    IBF Light Welterweight title - 5 succesfull defences
    WBO Light Welterweight title - 1 Succesfull defence
    WBC/WBA/IBF Welterweight titles - 1 Succesfull defence
    Won IBF Light Welterweight title again but failed to defend it

    Also fought for

    WBA Light Welterweight title (IBF Unification)
    IBF Welterweight title twice
    WBA Welterweight title
    WBA/WBC/IBF Welterweight titles
    Currently challenging for the WBA/WBC Light Welterweight titles

    Noteable wins - Witter, Ward, Spinks, Matthysse (all be it questionable)
    Noteable losses - Tszyu, Spinks, Baldomir, Mayweather, Cotto, Clottey, Khan

    Glen Johnson

    won 51 (KO 35) + lost 18 (KO 1) + drawn 2 = 71

    Age : 43

    Titles won

    IBF Light Heavyweight title - 1 succesfull defence
    IBO Light Heavyweight title - 1 succesfull defence

    Also fought for

    IBF Middleweight title
    IBF Super Middleweight title twice
    IBF Light Heavyweight title 3 times
    WBC Light Heavyweight title twice
    WBC Super Middleweight title

    Noteable wins : Woods, Jones, Tarver, Green
    Noteable losses : Woods, Tarver, Bute, Froch, Hopkins, Ottke (Questionable) Cloud, Dawson twice (first fight was questionable)

    On Paper Judah wins but when you look at the actual fights everytime judah has stepped up in competition hes lost decisevly via decision or stoppage whilst Johnson was a late bloomer and took on a lot of tough competition with his only stoppage to date being to Bernard Hopkins in his first loss 15-16 years ago.

    Also factor in Johnsons performances in his losses against Dawson and Froch at such a late age in the game giving each opponent a tough fight, if only Johnson was able to put perfomances like that in earlier in his career and had chances that Judah has had by having the luxury of fighting a unified champion at the calibur of spinks.

    Judahs thug/gangsta wannabe mentality backed up with his performances Vs Johnsons grit and detirmination plus his longetivity

    Judah wins on Paper
    Johnson wins in the ring ( pound for pound of course )
     
  10. StiffJab

    StiffJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Judah has a greater legacy imo. Undisputed champ at welter and champ at 2 weights. Although he is a wanker he has had the better career
     
  11. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    depends which way you look at it

    like i stated above, Judahs resume looks far better in terms of the belts he won with the spinks rematch being his best win but Johnson carried on until the age of 43 putting up great fights each time and its a shame he had to go out the way he did (4 losses in a row : Froch, Bute, Fonfara, Groves)

    Johnson should have been a 2 weight world champion in my eyes

    IBF Supermiddleweight champion

    Possible fights with WBA champ mitchell, WBO champ Calzaghe, WBC Champ Lucas and Charles Brewer who was wronged twice by Ottke

    IBF/WBC Light heavyweight champion

    If he had those fights on his resume hes overtake Judah
     
  12. I Talk Tonight

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    Judah accomplished more but Johnson has the better wins, if that makes any sense... Titles > opponents
     
  13. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnson has 18 losses and that should tell you something.
     
  14. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    I dunno why people are voting on personality either. The title clearly says "accomplished"
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Griffin, Tarver, Jones, Woods, and what I thought was a close decision loss against Froch...I think that has him edge Judah, who has Spinks, Ward, Witter, and maybe Lucas Matthysse.