Zab Judah Vs. Juan Manuel Marquez. Who You Got?

If a 1D fighter with horrible footwork and connect % (Khan) can beat him i'm sure JMM can give him somewhat of a ass whoopin. I think JMM is made for Manny to have problems with. If Zab doesn't fold under pressure and improves his lazy jab it's a start.

 

I see what you're saying, I just don't think he'll be afforded the angle to land those punches. He turned Vernon Paris and put on a great offensive performance that way, but I don't see him doing it to someone with the movement and defense and ability to counter that Marquez does. It would be competitive though.

 

People are forgetting just how lethargic and slow Marquez looked for long spells in his last fight. Unless Judah completely falls apart out of nowhere, I see this as a Zab victory.

Plus Zab fights at a completely different range than Pacquiao. So those comparisons go out the ****ing window.

 

Khan: 5'10 and 71" reach (as fast or faster than Judah)

Marquez: 5'7 and 67" reach (not as fast as Judah)

 

All southpaws need outside lead foot positioning to consistently land their left.

 

added some more **** on my comment.

 

Agree with added statements.

 

I get what you're saying, and as much as I like Marquez for his complete skillset, I think he's severly outmatched physically. Where he evens it up quite a bit is his technical advantages, and Zab's penchant for mistakes.


But to the more technical side of your post:

On the footwork. Zab doesn't have more footwork than Pac, but I think it's better. He is quite stationary, but when he throws, he's rarely off-balance and lunging. And he usually doesn't find himself grossly out of position. Plus, his punches are much straighter than Pac's so they may reach the target a little faster.


Another reason you can't Compare Zab and Pac is that Pac overwhelms his opponents with volume. Zab picks them apart shot after shot, and then tries to find an opening for a finish. They have two completely different goals. Zab is content with a boring fight that allows him to sit outside picking off Marquez from a distance. He will not open himself up if it's unnecessary, especially if he enjoys a reach and speed advantage.


And if the fight finds itself inside, Zab will definitely be able to enjoy some success. That will put Marquez right in line for the uppercut, which Zab will throw quite a bit more effectively than Pac.

 

Styles make fights. Zab by UD 7-5, close but clear.

 

True, but there are angles that Judah works from that might trouble Marquez. Coupled with the speed advantage of Zab and the non-devastating punching power of Marquez, you have the recipe for a "rare" great performance from Judah.

 

all due respect Judah is faster than Khan.

 

I guess on pure hand speed, yea. But I think Khan with his amateur influenced style is a bit looser than Zab at this point in their respective careers.

Khan was missing a lot of shots in their fight though. So you're probably right. But Khan was fast enough to bother Judah.

 

Judah has a punchers chance, that is about it. I still believe Judah has 1 punch KO power at 140 pounds and is dangerous as **** early in fights. However, I think JMM would play it safe early on before figuring out the angles and than would put a beating on Judah. My only concern is age, it will have to catch up to JMM one of these days (especially given his recent wars).

Bottom line is Marquez has more tools than Judah. If Judah gets aggressive, JMM will counter him to death. If Judah becomes complacent, JMM will pressure Judah and most likely stop him on a combination. Marquez also has the intangibles in his favor. Again my only concern would be age for JMM but not enough for me to pick Judah.

 

What was Zab's approach to Khan; go on the defensive and find a lucky shot to put him to sleep? Whenever I support Zab he always underperforms.

I don't think Zab has the capacity to engage in any wars; as long as he's not getting pressurised to fight back 'super judah is back baby'. It also doesn't help Judah ignores his corner.