Zab Judah: Why Was He So Hyped?

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  1. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I absolutely do believe Kellerman had an agenda. Nobody who watched Judah early on against that opposition (his first 22 fights) could have thought or concluded he was Sweet Pea with power unless they were in fact biased.
     
  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    You need another hobby. Or a tinfoil hat
     
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  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    You really take sports broadcasters words that literally?
     
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  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    So was Adrian Broner. It matters who you beat for the belt and other than Spinks, Judah beat absolutely nobody of consequence. The belt doesn't make the fighter the fighter makes the belt and in 3 of his 4 title wins the opponent was a nobody. Corley like Judah had potential but he just never could put it all together.
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Been watching Boxing for almost 35 years. I know a hypejob when I see one and I know a biased 'commentator' (if you can even call Kellerman that as he is more of a fanboy who spouts historical trivia that anyone can look up) when I see one. Kellerman was never a boxer, never a journalist and never had any formal journalism or television pedigree or training. His rich daddy got him jobs through connections.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I do when that same broadcaster continually makes idiotic and biased comments. Kellerman is a joke.
     
  7. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't take the type of beating that Cotto laid on him and have no heart, or a glass jaw. You don't catch up with Cory Spinks and stop him with mediocre stamina. I won't question heart either because he's shown heart and shown lack of it at times. I do agree that his ring IQ did leave something to be desired. As for why he was hyped, he was from New York, he was very fast, he had quite a bit of pop. And to be honest he was quite the physical specimen up until he aged. Multiple division champion, Undisputed WW champion. Even with those accolades, he was actually an underachiever if anything.
     
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  8. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Lmao. How exactly are you anything more than a fanboy?
     
  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Oh there it is the "insert person I don't like" is a joke comment. Yeah, you certainly don't have any agenda. Tons of knowledgeable insight in your opinion
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    There are people on this forum who know more about Boxing and have more of a pedigree than Kellerman does. There are other commentators I don't care for but they have the pedigree and the actual qualifications so I don't call them a joke. Do you understand this?
     
  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I'm asking how you are not a fanboy but kellerman a guy who works in the industry for several decades is
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Because I don't go around making ridiculous statements like "Judah is Sweet Pea with Power" or "Roy Jones would beat Joe Frazier"
    What you seem to not to be able to understand is Kellerman isn't where he is on merit. He isn't an 'expert'.
     
  13. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    No you are on a forum bragging about how you knew zab juda was a hype job before everyone else 20 years after it actually matters and your reasoning is completely based on hindsight.

    I'll ask again. How are you by your own definition any less of a fanboy than kellerman?
     
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  14. TheMikeLake

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    Max Kellerman has been talking boxing in tv since the late 80s. He probably has learned something about the game over the ensuing 30 plus years.

    Also pointing out Zab's flaws after his career is over and asking why he was so hyped is a little weird. You can literally do that with any fighter in history who didn't live up to their hype.

    Zab lost 1 fight at 140 until he was shot to ****. He beat Matthysse and Spinks at 147 as well, the former when he was pretty past it.
     
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  15. Cafe

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    It doesn't really mean anything, have you seen that interview with Mark Cuban and Skip Bayless? He's also been covering and watching basketball all his life, probably has forgot more than most basketball fans know, yet Cuban challenged him on a simple basketball question ("Why would you play zone defense") and he had no idea how to answer it. It exposed these guys big time for me.

    Why do I think his analysis sucks? Well obviously this is also just my opinion, but I think his moments of insight are rare, I don't remember Max Kellerman pointing out something that me an average Joe Schmo was not able to see or proved me wrong in some way. Yet he's had quite a few commentary duds. Most boxing fans don't really care for him, the only ones who think he's a great analyst are casuals.