Zab vs Kostya is an example of the winner of the fight not being the better fighter.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, Jul 9, 2015.


  1. mrdoctor

    mrdoctor GGG Full Member

    6,775
    14
    Jun 22, 2010
    Even black Americans think this is a stupid thread
     
  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,128
    12,572
    Jun 21, 2015
    You all got it, I've rewatched the fight. Judah was outboxing tzuy EASILY AND HARD. In the first round tzyu connected the amazing amount of ZERO punches, ZERO, and got the hell of a beating by judah. In the second judah outboxed him again. Then this shot happened, and judah tryed to insta-get up, and his ****ty dance made the referee to stop the fight. He was hurt, but wasnt even that hurt, had he taken the count on the ground, he would have recovered in the rest between rounds. ZAB JUDAH IS A BETTER FIGHTER THAN TZYU, I repeat my statement. My memories were not betraying me, I remembered fine.

    His only problem is that he is too stup1d to take a count waiting on the ground and recovering.
     
  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,128
    12,572
    Jun 21, 2015
    Rewatch the fight, it's not so long, ffs.

    Edit: And what timing? he caught him backpedaling, not hiting! what timing? NO timing involved whatsoover in the definitive punch. ffs, rewatch the f... fight.
     
  4. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

    1,067
    29
    Jul 21, 2004
    This... MVC is racist however and hates most fighters if they are white.
     
  5. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,809
    3,693
    Mar 18, 2012
    I don't think at the time judah could win. He would get broken down and K.O'd later.
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

    34,221
    5,875
    Apr 30, 2006
    "The operation was a success, but the patient died"
     
  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,128
    12,572
    Jun 21, 2015
    I'm not trying to convince noone. In this forum that's impossible. But suddenly, after rewatching the fight you wen from "NOOOO WAY" to " how can he be a better boxer if he was a cryer". Ok, mate, no problem. Tzyy connected 3 punches in the whole second round, one lost in the middle of the round, another that timed judah and made him flee, and the third one while he was fleeing (with no timing involved, i dont care about what tzyu said) that put him on the ground. Judah's mistake was not to take the count waiting on the ground. How can be tzyu ahead in the cards in the second round connecting only 3 punches? I had judah ahead in the secon until "the shot".

    The flashy with little substance was about to blow tzyu's head in the first, btw.
     
  8. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,128
    12,572
    Jun 21, 2015
    Lol, I hate judah, I enjoyed that ko A LOT. But I have eyes, you know?. It happens now that "timing" is to hit a boxer while he is doing nothing? ok, good to know.
     
  9. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,962
    4,844
    Feb 25, 2012
    I guarantee you if tyszu was prime mayweather would have avoided the fight
     
  10. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,076
    11
    May 6, 2006
    Judah dominated the first round, but pulled a classic Judah and did next to nothing in the second round, while Kostya put the pressure on him and while he wasn't dominant in the round, he was clearly winning the round before the stoppage. Judah not punching for stretches is something that happened all throughout his career, he even allowed a total non-puncher in Malignaggi to cause him to shell up. He was not a better fighter than Kostya. He had more "talent" but that is not the be-all-end-all in boxing.
     
  11. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    71,036
    27,680
    Jul 26, 2004
    More talent does not = better fighter
     
  12. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,128
    12,572
    Jun 21, 2015
    win does not = better fighter
     
  13. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,110
    13,356
    Dec 2, 2012
    Judah was more physically gifted but Kostya was the more skilled fighter.

    The better man won that night. Let's put this silly thread to rest.
     
  14. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    15,128
    12,572
    Jun 21, 2015
    The better man connected 3 punches in two rounds. However, I agree, let's let this thread die.
     
  15. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    71,036
    27,680
    Jul 26, 2004
    :lol: Youre right in that sometimes, the better fighter doesn't win.

    But its an exception to the rule, and the Zoo/Judah fight was no exception. And Im Judah fan.

    Judah loses that fight 8 out of 10 times.