Zarate Pintor controversy

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  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    How did you score this
    Did you see it as the huge robbery it was made out to be at the time?
    I personally had the fight tighter than the scorecards. I had Zarate winning by a couple but Pintor finished strong so really no beef on my end with the title changing hands.
    Fresh opinions?
     
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  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Zarate made his 10th title defense against stablemate and former sparring partner Lupe Pintor at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas on June 3, 1979. Zarate was forced to go the championship distance of 15 rounds for the first time in his career. To the surprise of many, Pintor was awarded a split decision victory and the WBC bantamweight title. The Associated Press had Zarate winning by nine points. Outraged by the decision, Zarate announced his retirement from boxing and vowed never to fight again."

    When I originally watched the fight...I thought Zarate edged it out. But at the time, no one knew who Lupe Pintor was.....and Zarate still had a "star" quality about him. Over time, I began to appreciate Pintor's style and toughness more.

    Still think Zarate won though.
     
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  3. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pintor 143-142
    Pintor 143-142
    Zarate 145-133

    The judges were not all watching the same fight apparently.
     
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  4. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some other scores at the time, just for sake of comparison:

    AP - 147-138 Zarate
    Boxing Illustrated - 144-142 Zarate
    International Boxing - 9-4-2 (rounds) Zarate - (which would be 146-140 Zarate in points if you subtract one extra point for the knockdown)
    Ring Magazine - 145-138 Zarate
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Wasn't a robbery at all. Very competitive fight with several very close rounds. The judge who gave it to Zarate by 12 points was off his rocker.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    This.
     
  7. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    Yeah, Zarate was hard done by despite Pintor's strong finish. I struggle to score it for Pintor th h.
     
  8. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was some guy on this forum a few years back that maintained that we were all idiots because we didn't agree with him that this fight represented one of the biggest robberies in history. Can't remember who it was now, but still not sure what he was getting all lathered up about. That was a close fight to anyone that knows how to score a bout.
     
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  9. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I think I had Zarate by a couple of points and that included the knockdown so it wasn't a shocking decision but Zarate still deserved it.
     
  10. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    tt
    I did! Still do.
     
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  11. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well the question asked initially was "do you think it was the robbery it was made out to be?"

    My answer to that is no. I had Zarate winning by 2 points. I've seen a LOT worse decisions that this.
     
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    ZARATE:3,4*,5,8,9,11,12,
    PINTOR:1,2,6,7,10,14,15
    EVEN:13,

    *Pintor down

    So Zarate, but only by a point.
     
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Think I had Pintor winning by a point but I might have scored it a draw (can’t remember). Thought Pintor caught up down the stretch, despite Zarate’s blatant elbows.
     
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  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bit of a robbery, to my mind. Zarate was consistent throughout, scored the KD and was able to keep Pintor's pressure at bay for most of the fight, despite Zarate tiring a little down the straight.

    Much as Pintor was in it; game and courageous from start to finish, he really only began to have a bit of success in the latter third of the bout.

    I actually don't have it that close, with Zarate winning a comfortable decision.
     
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  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    That was textbook Perry.