Zhāng Zhìlěi vs. Deontay Leshun Wilder & Daniel Raphael Dubois vs. Filip Hrgović - Round by Round.

Given his skill set, he overachieved.

Given his skillset, he really never should have won a belt. He also made a lot of money from boxing, I would call that overachieving for only have a straight right hand and not much else other than athleticism.

 

There isn't much point debating Wilder. He is ****. Always was. Always will be.

A narcist of the highest order, who as others have pointed out assaulted a woman.

He's never come close to beating an "elite" heavyweight.

Being of Croatian heritage I hated seeing Hrgovic right off Joyce during Joyce's public training session. Hrgovic has been 'dying on the vine' for too long to be cocky in the lead up to facing any other heavyweight.

I guess going back to the end of the cue might humble him. But if I was his coach I would have got into him regarding his attitude.

 

I don't care how good you are if a legend is showing you something you should listen

 

Uh, that Brit damn sure didn't come through when Fury fought for the Undisputed Championship with Usyk. Was kind of a big deal, maybe you missed it.

 

“If he was still fighting the same fighters he built his record on we would see him look like a KO monster still.”

Based off the fight I just watched.

Wilder is over the hill and should hang up his gloves.

No way could Wilder defeat a prime Ortiz or Stiverne in his current state.

 

10-0 Queensbury lol.

As Turkey Alashook said, time to retire Eddie.

 

I just searched for 20 minutes for this comment, because it has been bothering me. After the second Fury fight, I was watching an interview with Dillian Whyte in which he said he expected Wilder to descend into darkness and drug use. I thought it was just Dillian talking his usual ****, but drug use would explain both Wilder's erratic behavior over the years, his unnatural sharp decline for a big puncher, and his apparently emaciated appearance.

You might be onto something, here.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/dillian-whyte-cracked-me-up-talking-about-wilder.657853/

 

So do you accept Dubious getting the win?

 

Call it whatever you want, GOAT or not, Usyk wasn't a Brit, and Fury was. Stay consistent. Bottom line, Fury the Brit failed as a Brit to the British people. So that means Brits CAN'T always be counted on to 'come through' the big fights. Anyways, it's all good.

 

Kind of reminded me of Poverkin in the second Whyte fight, although he had COVID a few mins before that fight.

 

The heavyweight fights were trash. Atmosphere was trash. The arena was less then half full by the time the co main started.

The best loser on the night after Ford was probably Zenad.

 

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When did he defeat a Prime Ortiz or Stiverne? They were both old with medical problems when he beat them

 

Not as if he won the belt from a great champion lots of fighters could of won that belt given the same path I stand by my point achievement wise he never overachieved he was never given the chance too always took the path of least resistance until he got it wrong a cherry picked the wrong guy

But you are right in o e

When was a prime Ortiz and who did he beat you say that like Ortiz is Wlad
way he never should of been able to