Zhang vs. Muhammad Ali

Ali likely beats Zhang but none of the top heavyweights he beat were significantly bigger than him. His era lacked world class heavies that were far bigger than himself. Not his fault of course.

 

Ali beat BIG George Foreman....so there is the blue print for how Ali deals with Zhang

 

Ali wouldn't be able to rope a dope Zhang who at 40 would have more smarts than a young Foreman. But he has plenty of other options open to him.

I think Ali boxes and moves and manipulates the angles. I just can't see how Zhang finds Ali in there. He's jabbed and gone before Zhang knows what's happening. Late stoppage or wide points most likely with Ali getting away unmarked or early KO if Ali starts fast and is prepared to risk a couple of dings to his pretty face.

Ali literally wins this in any fashion he chooses to. He could almost forecast the round.

 

Being bigger is only significant if the boxer:

A) Have the ability to fight tall/big and impose your size on the opponent.

B) They're close to the smaller fighter in skill. If it's an A level smaller guy, the bigger guy will at least need to be B level or higher or the smaller boxer will likely easily box circles around him.

 

A troll post.

There’s no way that you seriously believe that.

 

Apart from that he’s got slow feet and stamina issues, and he’d have had to have found him first.

 

No.

What’s sad, is what you’ve written above.


You have been asked to come and answer the points which were put to you.

You then declined and said that it was pointless.

I then informed you that I’m both objective and unbiased, and that I’d welcome a debate.

You then went missing.

Yet here you now are with this nonsense.


Now who is the above nonsense even directed at?

Because NOBODY in this thread has been biased where they have worshipped Ali.

 

How can we debate you objectively after the nonsense that you’ve repeatedly typed?

 

He's insisting on using the narrative Ali was simply a freak athlete relying on his size while ignoring the fact the Kltischo brothers, Lewis, and Fury were often larger than most of their opponents. And they used their size, power, and weight far more than Ali who was a guy that relied on speed and technique.

It's really quite ironic how often these idiots don't realize how much they contradict themselves.

 

They’ve contradicted themselves all throughout the thread.

 

You are so blinkered by your biases that you can't even recognise their existence.

Nobody with any ability to self-reflect would simply declare themselves "Objective and unbiased", it's the height of arrogance.

This is why debate with you is pointless.

SAD!

 

Okay.

You can explain how and where I’ve been blinkered and biased then.


Once again, I have claimed that the great guys of the past would have had MIXED RESULTS depending on who they’d have faced, and how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically.

I have NOT claimed that all of the older guys were superior, and that the modern fighters are terrible etc.

I have NOT claimed that a prime Ali was a mythical god who was untouchable.

I have simply said that truly great fighters would have been able to have competed in any era, again, where they’d have had mixed results depending on the stylistic match ups that they’d have been faced with.

Now that is as unbiased and objective as one could be, is it not?


Your points have been countered by both me and @Dynamicpuncher, and as of yet, they haven’t been answered.

We’re still waiting.

We’ve been waiting now for over a week.


This post above is just complete nonsense, where it’s nothing more than a deflection tactic.

 

I’m still waiting.

Show me where I’ve been biased.

 

Pretty much to cut a long story short we've been the most impartial and reasonable in this thread seeing that both eras could have advantages/disadvantages.

It's the other side who have "blinkers" on and won't look past their biased agenda, and believe everything is about size and don't take skills or styles into consideration and that automatically makes "modern era" better.

Then these same people when we countered all their points decided to ignore all that and claim we're "biased and worship Ali". Despite none of our comments in anyway is biased to Ali. I've even stated many times "I'm not a fan of Ali and I don't think he would dominate in the modern era". And then these same people who can't counter any of our points decide to say "Oh your too biased to debate with" basically a cope out pretty much because they know they can't reply to the comments with anything to counter those points.

 

If Frazier could then I'm sure Zhang could.