Zhang Zhilei vs Joseph Parker - Just when you thought the heavyweight scene was dying, it revives.

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Zhang vs Parker

Poll closed Mar 6, 2024.
  1. Zhang KO/TKO

    48 vote(s)
    61.5%
  2. Zhang decision

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  3. Parker KO/TKO

    4 vote(s)
    5.1%
  4. Parker Decision

    21 vote(s)
    26.9%
  5. Draw

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  1. DoubleG95Fanatic

    DoubleG95Fanatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure, Parker ran out of steam against Joyce whilst Zhang still showed enough late on against Hrgovic. Time will tell.
     
  2. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who’s the best fighter that Parker has ever knocked out?
     
  3. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    He even was not fast enough to be in and out with slow Joyce. That's not Parker style to move on soo quick.
    Wilder got better reach? Off course. Also Wilder land 39 punches in 12 rounds. 15 of this 39 in last 3 rounds...

    Its pretty easy to win fight when Your opponent land 4 punch per round...
    Wilder got 5 rounds (!!!!!) where he land 0 (zero!) jabs...

    Im not sure about Parker lose but I'm pretty sure that Zhang will set the bar much higher than Deontay...

    And I dont write that reach and size is the key. Its just good begining of other advantages which Zhang have.
    Because after cut the distance where is straight punches from Zhang there is still his hooks, strenght and iron chin.
    And as I said above when Parker come closer to land smth Zhang will loose his hands and let them work.
    And his punching power is probably best today after 1 perfect right hand from Wilder (and can be that he punch even harder because Wilder dont destroy soo easy someone like Joyce ever)

    But I dont want sound too much like some kind expert. That's my thoughts on this fight. That's all.
     
  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With Joyce Parker came in too heavy looking to trade with Joyce, and Joyce consistently walked him down. Zhang doesn't have the gas tank to do the same, and Parker is unlikely to stay too close to allow Zhang to let off too much. You're also not considering the possibility that Parker could force Zhang to throw less by not sitting in front of him the whole fight, which was essentially the game plan against Wilder.

    Parker isn't going to play Zhang's game here, so Zhang has to actually rely on more than staying out of range and trying to counter punch. Styles make fights.
     
  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's because Joyce walked him down 11 rounds straight. Zhang doesn't have the same stamina.
     
  6. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure if anyone has told you this, but there's more to boxing than KOs.
     
  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Zhang is a pretty low-output fighter. He also shells up when attacked. I don't think he will become a "pressure" fighter all of a sudden.

    But he does have HUGE power. And he waits and waits to deliver those power shots well.

    Parker may just out-point him to a UD.

    Either way, I see Parker's SPEED negating Zhang's POWER.
     
  8. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a classic styles make fights contest. Also, the "triangle theory" gets beat up too often, but I think doesn't apply here.
    Zhang > Joyce 2X & Joyce > Parker does not easily imply Zhang > Parker.

    I've seen some suggest that Joe was a bit ill before his bout w/ Joyce. He also might have come in too heavy. This is an intriguing fight. Agree w/others that think ZZ wins early to mid fight by stoppage, or JP wins late by TKO or decision. Key for Joe is to not get hurt badly early in the fight, then take it to ZZ as he tires. Whoever comes out on top, it will be a huge win, and should set up a major bout with a hefty payday.

    PS I recently watched AJ vs. JP fight. WTF, that ref was ridiculous in quickly breaking them up. He hardly gave the fighters even a few seconds to in-fight when they got close. At least one of the commentators criticized that ref. Joe wasn't just fighting AJ and the home crowd :shakehead:
     
  9. buster007

    buster007 FAB 4 R A GAY PORN CLUB Full Member

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    rooting for our kiwi cousin in this.
    he'll chop down the lump of china.
     
  10. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    We will see. Parker come to heavy for Joyce, Parker dont let Wilder to throw punches, Parker stay out of Zhang punches too and same build point advantage. For me its sound like You guys talking about different Joseph Parker that I know.

    He is not boxer who can move very much to being disapear point who box with You like Usyk. He always go forward.
    And he was not the reason why Wilder even dont throw the jab. Only poor skills and faith in magic right hand + afraid of miss and took respond to the head from him.

    But we will see. For me Parker can try box but he will be catch sooner or later because Joyce punches compare to Zhang speed and power is nothing.
    And he go down.

    You just magic way start to belive that Joseph become soo great after his big win with Wilder. Zhang probably help You wake up and probably Your opinion after this fight will be close to opinion after Joyce- "why he box like that". "Why he choose this idiotic strategy".

    Because he is offensive boxer who will not learn how to fly on ring and sting...
     
  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're acting like Zhang hasn't had poor performances in the ring. Parker has shown in many fights he's capable of boxing on the outside. He doesn't "always go forward". Maybe you ought to re-watch some fights.

    It won't be an easy fight for Parker, but he can definitely beat Zhang.
     
  12. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Can You recommend me Parker fight in style like that? I watch it later.
    And it will be good if his opponent got height and reach advantage.

    And I write enough on this thread. I guess we will see in fight night who was right and who judge it with simphaty and magic of Wilder win.
     
  13. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Here's hoping Andy Lee can find a way to turn Zbig ZBang

    into Damp Firework
     
  14. KINGWILDER

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    Styles make fights and unlike Joyce, Zhang has a relatively low punch output. He is probably the third biggest puncher Parker has ever faced after Wilder and maybe AJ but Joseph has always had very solid durability. The Joyce stoppage was a mixture of exhaustion and an accumulation of Joyce’s thudding power.

    I think the fight will go the distance and I think Parker may just edge it. I can see Zhang hurting him, maybe even dropping him, but I think after those Joyce fights people are overrating Zhilei a tad. I think he will tire in this fight which will ultimately be his undoing and Parker’s superior output and energy levels at the end will see him win a razor close decision. Could be very wrong on this but I’ve just got a feeling Parker may do it.
     
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  15. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    People dont overrated Zhang after Joyce fight. They simply underrated him still.
    Joyce was top 5 when they fight first time. Some people try make him even higher talking how he would destroy AJ and other.

    Zhang just destroy him but they still thinking that just accident and injury. I told here ppl that Zhang win again but many said Joyce can do better and he would win. They talking same arguments as in first time.

    Zhang destroyed him second time. And now people talk how this win is overrated? Lol

    No. This is bigger win than beat old, inactive Wilder actually.

    You still thinking that accident? Ok. We will see when Parker eat some Chinese bombs.
    You forget that before Joyce fight Parker was floored and wobbled sometimes.

    Ok. I cant stop but enough is enough.
    We will see.
    For me chances is maximum 30/70 for Zhang.