Zhang's Win Easily Shows Why....

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  1. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Today's average top ten HW, despite being much larger (and much older) than those of the pre-2000 era, are much worse fighters. Zhang looked like absolute crap last night, but fortunately for him he was only fighting the guy that would destroy a prime George Foreman as I've seen suggested recently LOL.

    If anyone watched that garbage and still thinks these guys destroy fighters like Foreman, then I must say that we are at polar opposites as far as how we gauge what we're seeing. They looked like good quality tough man competitors, nothing more.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, it shows fast accurate heavy handed southpaws are a pain in the ass for pretty much everyone, regardless of the weight division.
     
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  3. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like I said, completely different points of view.

    Hitting a stationary target is not a display of accuracy in my book. Hitting a non-stop bobbing & weaving Frazier on the chin is more my idea of accuracy, as an example.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Give big bang zhang some credit ffs.
     
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  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    people love to try and discredit this post Wlad era

    when really it was the Wlad era that sucked most

    You cant be a super heavy jab clincher there are too many other big men around today. Fury, Joyce, AJ, Wilder, Bakole, Zhang, Hurgo, Jalapeno, Makhmood, Dubious david price.
     
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  6. drenlou

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    Bang on.
     
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  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Zhang on
     
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  8. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I give him credit for beating Joyce, but I won't pretend he has skills, he's not very good at all.

    But then, there's no one around at HW that can actually box well, except Fury & Usyk and Fury ain't all that great himself.
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are you on about? He clearly has skill the guy is a silver medalist. If you want to criticize his stamina sure, but the guy clearly is skilled.
     
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  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I think it shows that Zhang is worthy of top 10, perhaps even top 5. Also exposed Joyce's shitty defense.
     
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  11. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    Big Bang on.
     
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  12. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think his skills suck and would make anyone in the top maybe 10 even money apart from Usyk & Fury, who destroy him.

    I could care less about what he did before turning pro, I trust what my eyes see.
     
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  13. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    With Frazier at a chubby 205 lbs, many of these guys send Frazier into orbit, just like Foreman and Norton did. That being said, fighting once a year for 5-10 years definitely has these guys skills rotting on the vine.
     
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  14. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Zhang looked decent. Joyce was target practice though. Big lefty’s are tough only Wlad really went after them and even he got felled by Sanders early on.
     
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  15. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The average top 10 HW of the 70's doesn't beat Foreman, why hold the average top 10 heavy of today to a higher standard?
     
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