Zhilei Zhang vs Joe Joyce II - September 23, 2023

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Sep 4, 2023.

Zhilei Zhang vs Joe Joyce

Poll closed Yesterday at 8:41 AM.
  1. Zhang by KO/TKO

  2. Zhang by decision

  3. Joyce by KO/TKO

  4. Joyce by decision

  5. Difficult to predict, could go either way

  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

    Nov 4, 2017
    At Wembley Arena, which is an indoor arena next to Wembley Stadium in Wembley, London, England.

    What is your prediction for this one?

    I'll be rooting for Zhang, but I think the fight may be different from the first. Old "Fish Eyes" will likely have a dodgy referee like Howard Foster or Ian John-Lewis in there to help Joyce, and if it goes the distance the judges will likely have Joyce's back even if he takes a severe beating. That being said, the despicable Foster tried to help Joyce in the first fight but Joyce lost anyway.

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  2. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Sep 5, 2010
    JJ by lasting the distance with scores of 116-114, 112-118, 120-108.
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  3. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Nov 24, 2019
    This could be the fight of the year, I think the outcome will be the same as the first fight unless Joyce takes care of his defense then everything could be different...
  4. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

    Dec 18, 2019
    Big Bang abuses him again. Gets him out earlier.
  5. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

    Dec 18, 2019
    Nah, Big Bang's boxing skills are too crispy.
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  6. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz That new gorilla tape, is it silver backed? Full Member

    Sep 6, 2008
    I liked Joyce’s work to the body in the first fight. If he covers up better this time he could well win and stop zhang late
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  7. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Active Member Full Member

    Sep 30, 2019
    Joyce is easy to hit. I don't see him winning unless he can make Zhang miss just enough times in the first 6 rounds.
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  8. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 Full Member

    Dec 22, 2020
    Joyce will fight carefully in the first 6 and wear out Zhang after that before stopping him late on in the fight. Zhang is 40+ and Joyce won't make the same mistakes again. I can't believe that Zhang is the favourite according to the betting odds.
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  9. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2017
    Joyce doesn't have the defense to fight carefully vs someone of Zhang's caliber
  10. _Scott_

    _Scott_ Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 7, 2015
    Zhang within 3 rounds. Plus he drops Joyce this time.
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 14, 2022
    I don't see how you can't think Zhang isn't the favourite ? he won a majority of the rounds and busted by Joyce the 1st time. What you're talking about is a fantasy Joyce doesn't have a good defence, and isn't miraculously going to improve his defence 10 folds after 1 fight.

    He's 37 years old himself and it's going to be a miracle for him to totally alter his boxing style, he's not some amazing boxer who has shown great adaptability in fights. He's come forward aggressive fighter who relies on his chin and workrate.

    The problem is Zhang is just as big as him hits harder than him, and has the boxing skills and Southpaw stance to totally shut Joyce down.
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 4, 2005
    Joyce will have to do something different this time. What he did before and what he usually does will not work. Zhang took away his jab, making Joyce lead too much giving Zhang opportunities to land hard counters. His usual willingness to take shots to land shots won't work and will just see a repeat of the first fight.

    Can Joyce win? If he can come in with a better strategy and execute it then yes, he was having some success in the later rounds but I suspect Zhang again piles on the damage and Joyce is stopped again before Zhang's gas tank is emptied.
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  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Can Joyce adapt. Zhang is Zhang, sharp decisive powerful punches for the first 4 or 5 rnds and then its suck wind for the rest of fights. Avoid the knock down or damage in the early rnds and you can pick him off when he gas.
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  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe It’s a Tank world Full Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    Big bang Zhang!
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  15. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    Jun 21, 2015
    Zhang by KO.

    Same pattern. Joyce doesnt know how to avoid Zhang's left hand and he's finally KO'd.
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