Zhilei Zhang vs Joe Joyce II - September 23, 2023

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Zhilei Zhang vs Joe Joyce

Poll closed Sep 25, 2023.

  1. Zhang by KO/TKO

    90 vote(s)
    59.6%

  2. Zhang by decision

    12 vote(s)
    7.9%

  3. Joyce by KO/TKO

    21 vote(s)
    13.9%

  4. Joyce by decision

    17 vote(s)
    11.3%

  5. Difficult to predict, could go either way

    11 vote(s)
    7.3%
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  1. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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    Joyce needs to come in twice the juggernaut he usually does and keep his hands up to protect his head.

    He was coming on towards the end of the first fight.

    I think Joyce is going to wear him down and stop Zhang late.
     
    humbug, Sep 6, 2023
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  2. howard29

    howard29 Member Full Member

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    Joyce can adapt and learn, but then so can Zhang. But at the end of the day these guys are both senior citizens on their way out, so not a ton of interest.
     
    howard29, Sep 6, 2023
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Big Joe has been proving the doubters and sceptics wrong since he first donned a pair of gloves, to winning Olympic silver (robbed of gold), right up until he won his interim belt.

    So many on this forum have doubted him and have been here telling us he cannot do it during every step of his journey from the foot of the mountain to just below the summit

    So this is nothing new to him

    I'm on the fence as to whether he can pull this off too but the difference is I believe he has it within him to do so if he gets his tactics and his slow-fast speed equilibrium right on the night

    Theoretically Big Bang should probably win again and of course I can see and totally understand why many feel he will. He not only can match Big Joe for size but he's one of the extremely rare few who has him beat in that department. He's also more skillful, hits harder, and he has a better defence.

    But Big Joe is a huge unit himself, has one of the best chins in the division, hits very hard himself when he wants to, and he has a crazy engine on him, one if not the best engines in the division despite him being one of the biggest lumps in it
     
    Serge, Sep 6, 2023
    Serge, Sep 6, 2023
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  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly I could see Joyce actually winning the rematch. There but for the fact his eye was falling out the fight wouldn't have been stopped. I personally think it was beginning to turn. He's gonna have to go through the same fire again and is likely gonna lose early rounds again but if he tweaks his defense against that left hand..................
     
    northpaw, Sep 7, 2023
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  5. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    Zhang to repeat what he did in the first fight.

    I admire Joe's nuts but it's a crazy fight for him to take, complete career suicide I give him next to no chance he can't do anything different other than be wide open and try to steamroller his opponents. Problem for him zhang is an absolute unit that hits as hard as anyone and a very good boxer with it.

    He has met his match physically and I don't see how he can get around that .

    The only chance Joe has got is to pressure zhang make him work and take over when he tires down the stretch. He almost did that last time but he can't defend with his face whilst doing it or it'll be another stoppage loss.
     
    Gomo, Sep 7, 2023
    Gomo, Sep 7, 2023
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  6. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Fight week!

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    Perkin Warbeck, Sep 18, 2023
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  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm going with Zhang by round 10. Joyce will do better, but Zhang will eventually do too much damage.
     
    Kiwi Casual, Sep 18, 2023
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  8. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Zhang will try to hit his eyes again. Are Joyce weaknesses. The chin is too tough.
     
    Boxing2019, Sep 18, 2023
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  9. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joyce is one of my favourite fighters but he was so outclassed the first time the two fought I just can't see him winning the rematch. There's been some good arguments in Joe's favour however and I now think he's got a 20% - 30% chance of pulling off the upset. I really hope I'm wrong. It happens a lot so why not this time?
     
    Dementia Pugulistica, Sep 18, 2023
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  10. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    Time for Joyce to use the classic Arthur Abraham peekaboo stance and work zhangs body. He can win this fight.

    also, I see yarde is on the undercard, any idea who the opponent is considering they were mentioning Joe smith jr at one point
     
    anjawnaymiz, Sep 18, 2023
    anjawnaymiz, Sep 18, 2023
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  11. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joyce will win this time...
     
    heerko koois, Sep 18, 2023
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  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Give me Joyce in the rematch. Stamina will be the difference in this fight. Joyce will move and make Zhang work very hard. Joyce should avoid the early rnd damage and outbox Zhang the rest of the late rnds.

    This being heavyweight boxing, wouldnt be surprise if Zhang lands a big one early for the stoppage.
     
    lobk, Sep 18, 2023
    lobk, Sep 18, 2023
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  13. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to 'murica cow Full Member

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    Even though I'm rooting for Joyce to turn it around, I voted Big Bang by stoppage. What have we learned?
     
    Salty Dog, Sep 18, 2023
    Salty Dog, Sep 18, 2023
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  14. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joyce will come out a defensive wizard in this one and perform a Pep like performance against Big Bang..

    Jk. Big Bang by TKO 8-9

    (Unless he gets a hefty brown envelope with 7 figures the night before)
     
    Jacques81, Sep 18, 2023
    Jacques81, Sep 18, 2023
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  15. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    People talk about Joyce’s granite chin, but he was hurt badly in the 2nd round - and hurt again another 2 times in the first fight.

    He couldn’t read Zhangs straight left and was buzzed almost every time it landed.

    If it goes the distance, Joyce wins. Zhang was on his way to being robbed in the first first with Joyce up on one of the cards - they have no shame.
     
    kiwi_boxer, Sep 18, 2023
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