Zhilei Zhang vs. Joseph Obey Joyce II & Pierce O'Leary vs. Kane Gardner RBR.

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  1. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    He lost because he`s still an amateur with no head movement, every straight left hit him and then the right hook finished him because of his amateur defense, it was a good pro v a good amateur.
     
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  2. Kratos

    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes >_>
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Still... WHAT THE **** DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT I WROTE?
     
  4. snafu

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    People always quoting "what happened" in the amateurs over ten years ago like it would have the same exact result as today aj Vs Zhang... I believe Zhang has his backed up, scared and obliterates AJ in similar fashion
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Right about what? I said he still would've most likely lost implementing the tight high guard steamrolling, but would've probably lasted longer and not been as brutally KO'd.
     
  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    I mean, sure his post is blunt and probably coming from the mental energy as his usual irrelevant points, but it's right for once. I don't know if he would have lasted longer. He actually managed to not get pieced up in rd 1 and most of rd 2. Zhang was still tattooing him the left with other approach, so it's likely he just would have been a sitting duck for the left cross considering Zhang already knows he land it more or less at will.
     
  7. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps but Joyce has no ring IQ and AJ has tons of it.

    It’s an interesting fight.
     
  8. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    You want slower dude, who was hard wobbled and destroy in first fight to attack, bullying bigger, stronger and harder hitting dude...
    You just dont get that If Joe go forward agresive way Zhang will welcome his with some atomic bombs

    And here You can say smth about Joyce head movement and his defence.

    He cant do what You want him to do. That's all. And if he will try hard he probably will take same damage little quicker.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    That is ****ing mad.

    Wrong to interview fighters that concussed.
     
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  10. RJJFan

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  11. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Did you iss the tight high guard part. Joe's arms are massive, they can cover a lot.
     
  12. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Yes but he is not Abraham or Krzysztof Włodarczyk to fight like that.
    He always was wide open but got other advantage.

    He cant fight like You want him too because its not his style. Same as You say about looking for that left. He focused on this but they say im Pl commentary that he dont throw shots and if he start do it "old demons" back to him
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yes, that's obvious. But the point of my post was, IF he fought the way I wanted him to.
     
  14. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    That's quiet weird. Dont take it like attack because I got massive respect to You but its just sound weird.

    U write how u think Joe should fight but You also understand that he cant. And You are angry because someone told You about his big weaknes.

    U expect too much from Joyce in that one. We all read this game wrong sometimes
     
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  15. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    That's all this useless pos can say. Fury hasn't fought anyone remotely like Zhang, who looks like a master boxer compared to Deontay. He's also a southpaw.

    Fury won't go anywhere near him.
     
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