Zou Shiming: on a collision course with disaster?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by dmille, Jul 14, 2013.


  1. Changfoo

    Changfoo Guest

    He is the second coming of Jackie Chan and the body like Bruce Lee and the speed of Jet Li!


    Zou Shimming the future Greatest of all time!!!
     
  2. IvyLeagueBoxing

    IvyLeagueBoxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kung Pao shiming sucks. He's just being used so Bob can break into that china market. That's all it is.
     
  3. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    But if handled differently, he could get in the necessary work to make the proper transition into the pro ranks.

    The blueprint for success is there in the early career of Ray Leonard and in the comeback of George Foreman.

    As a manager, I'd have had a fighter do 10 four rounders before his first six, 10 sixes before his first eight, etc.

    Fighting at a pace of 2 bums a month, barring injury or a loss - he'd be 24-0 with 4 eights at the end of his rookie year. That kind of schedule would mean he would always be in shape and he'd not have time to be out raising hell.

    Then back him off to one fight a month against quality journeymen, 6 more eights and 6 ten rounders. Now in his third year, he's ready for main event status fighting every other month, 4 more tens and then two 12 rounders.

    42-0 and not only ready to challenge for a title early in his pro fourth year, but ready to win it. Three to four fights a year for another two to three years before retiring at 50 or 55-0.
     
  4. Pokerpapi999

    Pokerpapi999 Inmigration reform NOW!!! Full Member

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    He is ok for a Espn undercard but his zero will dissapear after a few fights
     
  5. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats a good idea and he would drastically improve with a schedule like that. The problem is that even against bums he would manage to loose a couple of fights.
     
  6. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    When I said two bums a month, I didn't mean "bums" literally. I just meant that he would fight the usual suspects, the regular stepping stone foes that everybody fights on the way up the ladder. You match him against every imaginable style out there: runners, volume punchers, guys with granite chins, maulers, grabbers, lefties, etc.

    Even Ray Leonard and Pernell Whitaker weren't matched against world class competition in their early fights.
     
  7. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    I agree that Zou should not have been a two-time Olympic Champion, because IMO he should have turned pro after winning the bronze in 2004. Then again, you could be referring to his win over Oubaali (08) or Barnes (12).

    Lomachenko looks like a solid fighter, but like Zou, he should have turned pro after his first Olympics. It will be interesting to see if the AIBA will be able to make the necessary in-roads in the pro ranks or if Vasyl will jump ship to a US promoter.
     
  8. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roach is still the best mitt man in the world:bbb.

    Look, Shiming will be fine. As many others have already stated, his main problem is that he has turned pro so late but I do believe that he'll be able to put together a few quality wins in the next few years...though I'm not sure whether any of those victories will be career defining or not.
     
  9. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    he is to old for his weight division... he has 2 good years in him...
     
  10. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    Vasyl was already a gold medalist and Val Barker cup winner. You can't go any higher than that. Had he turned pro after 08, he could already be a titleholder and a millionaire.

    And the last time I checked listening to a promoter's offer is not the same as signing a contract.
     
  11. SUPER TROJAN

    SUPER TROJAN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As long as Bob keeps him fighting in Macau, which seems like it'll be a regular thing now, they'll both make lots of money together. :)
     
  12. DeadLikeMe

    DeadLikeMe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dude is complete garbage...I wouldn't expect him to face anyone of note, at any point, for years and years and years.
     
  13. Phanekim

    Phanekim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this.
     
  14. Stilt Skinner?

    Stilt Skinner? Active Member Full Member

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    I get that as a manager for there career I really do high profit/no danger win win. As a actual fighter if he ever wants to be remembered as anything dont you think he need's a little better than force feeding us FNF's?, cause I know HBO and Showtime wont bother with him after his last performance except that the chinese audience is there to be milked.
     
  15. Stilt Skinner?

    Stilt Skinner? Active Member Full Member

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    this.