Zurdo's gameplan - why?

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  1. serioussam

    serioussam Active Member Full Member

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    Can anyone tell me, why boxers and their team change their style for one fight, instead to adjust the gameplan to the style the boxer already has and used for years?

    Zurdo vs. Bivol was like AJ tried to outbox Usyk. Why a whole team thinks, 1-2 years training are enough to change a style and beat an elite boxer with his own weapons?
     
  2. Dragomir Slevak

    Dragomir Slevak New Member Full Member

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    Zurdo couldn't do what he normally does. It's not as if he didn't want to; it's that Bivol didn't let him and forced Zurdo to fight his fight. That's called "ring generalship." Zurdo couldn't get close enough without using his jab. And when he'd go down to the body, he was countered, and this is why he started hesitating. After a couple straight rights from Bivol, he had "fear" put into his heart. He was hesitant to throw because he couldn't respond to the speed. And when he could, many times Bivol would control the distance and get out of range.

    The best boxers make you fight their fight. That's what Bivol did last night.
     
  3. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    He knew if he was more aggressive, he would likely be TKOed.
     
  4. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is also an argument that Zurdo was forced into that mindset very early in round one when Bivol established the centre of the ring and distance and tagged him with a nice firm right counter making him wary. Bivol's defense is the best in the sport, and when opponent's make a mistake, he can counter incredibly fast with combiantions, without sacrificing any of his defensive acumen.

    Zurdo's corner was terrible throughout, next to useless, it was clear even as early as round 4/5 that Zurdo needed to change things up, and he got nothing out of his corner to help with that.
     
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  5. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This! 100% spot on!
     
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  6. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post.

    Boxers seriously need to work on their roughhousing abilities. When you can't outbox a boxer, you throw all the tactics out the window and you go to war. It's the trainers job to notice when things aren't going to plan. Ramirez corner was terrible. Motivational toe curling speeches.. It's not a bloody film.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk is going to walk forward at Fury and maul him to death
     
  8. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Why is his team comprised of Asian millennials? Very odd pairing. They thought they were in a movie — 12th round advice:

    "Immortality is through that guy!"

    :lol:
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    He could have Cus D'Amato, Nacho Berestien & Micheal Jackson coaching him it still wouldn't make a difference

    Great fighters adapt and find a way to win. They don't lose round after round expecting something to change by magic.
     
  10. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When Zurdo started being even a little bit aggressive, Bivol countered him to hell
     
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  11. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not about Zurdo's game plan or his corner's incompetence.

    Zurdo's potential is not sufficient. This is what he is. He won't ever be a champion, no matter how good he is trained or how good game plan he follows.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Zurdo is too slow and Bivol who is very fleet of foot and hand sat down on his shots and let him know very early he meant business and there would be a price to pay when he tried to bully him and Zurdo really felt those shots. Even when he pressured him on the ropes Bivol often got the better of it or was untroubled.
     
  13. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    It's not like Zurdo didn't tried.

    Bivol was backing him up most of the fight. Bivol was right in front of Zurdo and Zurdo couldn't do much.
     
  14. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s because Bivol was always a few steps ahead of him and forced Zurdo to fight his fight. Even when Zurdo started to let his hands go Bivol would fire right back furiously with combinations. Zurdo simply had no answer for him. Bivol’s mastery with controlling range and ring generalship is remarkable.
     
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  15. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For starters, I don't know why the hell Zurdo has a corner made up of Planet Fitness trainers. They gave **** advice during the fight.

    Second, as you mentioned, why the hell would Zurdo try and outbox Bivol? Whoever came up with that game plan needs to be ***** slapped and fired. Zurdo negated his height and reach advantage by crouching and trying to do whatever the hell he was trying to do.

    Third, when Zurdo did have Bivol on the ropes, I never saw him throw a punch with any type of leverage. They all appeared to be arm punches. His punches had zero urgency. This has to be one of the shittiest performances I have seen from a pro boxer in a championship fight. I am not interested in seeing Zurdo again.

    Lastly, someone needs to check what Zurdo was smoking before the fight. To even say he thought he did enough to win only adds insult to injury.