The HW division: What has changed?

Ukraine only became independent in 1990, so wouldnt have any amateur champions before that lol.

 

If the HW division is such a joke why do you post so much to talk about it? Are you an idiot? :think

 

Here you have picked the best 6 boxers over a period of 40 years to compare with, 2 top ten and one top 20 of today, if you're this selective you can make any era look bad.
Applying the same logic to the 70s which is supposed to be a strong era, would the klits and haye and adamek shiver at the thought of facing Ernie terrell, jose luis garcia and rudi lubbers.

 

Garcia and Lubbers werent the top contenders of the day.

Arreola, Chambers are, thats the difference.

You named some of the worst fighters from the 70s, i named the top fighters of today.

You claim that the Klits would be comepettive in any era, based on what exactly? so i mentioned their top names and compared them to past greats.

 

I think the reason that the hw division looks weaker now is because the size required now is so much greater,
A great heavyweight now will usually need to be 6'5" + (not always though) so when the best heavys were upto 6'2 or 6'3" there were plenty of kids getting into the sport who would grow up to be that height. But if a 12 old is tall and athletic (tall enough to grow up to be 6'6) he is more likely to play basketball and never step into the ring. So when someone says the great heavys are in other sports that doesnt mean they are actually in the nba, or that nba players could beat boxers, it just means someone who could have been great never stepped into the ring

 

Actually i went by where they were ranked by ring magazine to be objective, and they have the same rank within the top 10 in 1973 as those you picked are now. plus one random guy ali fought in 1973 from outside the top 10 like peters is

 

this...^

Eastern Europeans were denied the right to compete professionally so that's why there was the American dominance. Since the eastern euros now can compete, they are dominating. Just get over it, our blood is far too strong...

 

How many of those wil be remembered in say 10 years time?

Tua will, only because hes from the previous era and Tyson Fury, due to his name :hi:

Tyson and Holmes fought and bea bums better than those above mentioned

Name the best 5 wins for each of the above

 

If the eastern europeans weren't chambers would be remembered as an ATG

 

No he ****ing wouldnt, hes only an ATG to Klit lovers like you.

 

Statistics dont mean **** im afraid

U didnt answer my questions

Chambers was 36-0 etc, but who did he fight?

exactly nobodies :hi:

 

We'll see in 10 years time won't we? You're comparing guys who are still competing to others that have finished their careers, such shortsightedness.

Right, Dimitrenko, Povetkin, Sam Peter were nobodies, f*ck off.

 

You're missing the point of what i am saying.
If you take away the eastern europeans. he would be 36-0, and would have probably dominated the division.
Any american that does that in a division will get ATG status with a lot of people.
I'm not saying that he is great or worthy of that.