Undeserving Heavyweight Challengers

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Il Duce, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2006
    Messages:
    71,960
    Likes Received:
    27,928
    Most of them har prety sold credentials.

    You can find fault with some choices, but Louis's level of activity buys him some slipage.
     
  2. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2010
    Messages:
    6,972
    Likes Received:
    45

    I can think of $3,000,000+ reasons why Larry fought Marvis Frazier...:D

    Though the WBC and Nevada State Boxing Commission did not recognize it as a Title Fight.
     
  3. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    5,793
    Likes Received:
    582
    Yeah, but surely everytime a heavyweight champ steps into the ring, the title has always been on the line. Ok, it was done 90yrs ago, but not again since Baers 'exhibition'. Im all for fighters making as much money as they can, its a tough game, but do you not agree Larry would have been better suited fighting a more appropriate contender? After all, he had claims levelled at him even then for not fighting certain guys (even though he was widely accepted as the man)
     
  4. eslubin

    eslubin Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2009
    Messages:
    558
    Likes Received:
    0
    Jack Finnegan who challenged Jeffries!

    Jeffries made the lubin elite "8" all-time battle royal:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TroTAs25RkU[/ame]

    www.youtube.com/eslubin
     
  5. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2009
    Messages:
    24,478
    Likes Received:
    128
    Your wasting your time, this is an Ali and Patterson bash thread.

    Larry Holmes can do no wrong. Apparently even the Alfredo that Holmes fought, grew into a legit top contender unlike that undeserving bum who faced Ali not long before.
     
  6. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2004
    Messages:
    8,445
    Likes Received:
    31
  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    13,965
    Likes Received:
    68
    Carl Williams dealt with his power , along with many others .
    D hardest puncher in history is no other than David Tua .
    Bert Cooper might be d 2nd .
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    13,965
    Likes Received:
    68
    2/25/1964 Cassius Clay
    6/22/1979 Mike Weaver
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    13,965
    Likes Received:
    68
    Disagree about both .
    Chuvalo gave Patterson a year earlier "the fight of the year" and less than a year and a half b4 stopped Doug Jones . In between he squeezed lots of recorded sparing sessions vs bums , losing a decision 2 1 of them and losing a decision 2 d glorified sparing partner in Ernie Terrell , and after all of this he proved himself as a worthy challenger to Ali .

    Patterson was virtually undefeated since his loss 2 Ali , 3 years earlier , in which he had a problem with his back .
    It is good 2 have former champions getting repeated shots when they r in fighting shape .
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    13,965
    Likes Received:
    68
    Weaver had 4 stoppage losses and 4 decision losses prior his shot at Holmes . Duane Bobick had a better record and stopped Weaver but retired because of his **** record .
     
  11. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2008
    Messages:
    5,268
    Likes Received:
    1,308
    starting from the modern times,

    mormeck, sosnowski, peter 2, briggs, holyfield, kevin johnson, rahman, austin, audley harrison,
    let's make who deserved it^^

    haye, adamek, solis, chambers, thompson, brock, ibragimov, byrd, brewster since 2005
     
  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    13,965
    Likes Received:
    68
    Peters deserved a rematch after his 1st fight vs Wlad , d thing is that that fight ruined him . And Holyfield needs 2 take care of a lot of his descendants so he deserves it in a way , he also gave so much 2d sport . And Rahman is relatively good 2 watch , and wasn't that old , and was still 1 of d best , as bad as it is and might have had a claim 2 Vitali ducking him back in his day .
     
  13. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2009
    Messages:
    2,949
    Likes Received:
    33
    Jesse Ferguson
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2009
    Messages:
    13,965
    Likes Received:
    68
    by winning d right 2 fight Ferguson deserved his title challenge .
    Not 2 mention he had a history of being competitive vs d best : McCall , Douglas , Norris , Smith and a stoppage over Reggie Gross ( who stopped both Bert Cooper & Charles Williams ) .
    Ferguson was above d average level of title challengers in history .
    His problem was that he was in vs Bowe , whom would have thrashed almost every 1 in history .
     
  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2006
    Messages:
    25,495
    Likes Received:
    2,176
    No, not in my opinion; he beat the man, who was due to have the shot. At least he earned his shot, unlike some...