James Toney the greatest Super Middle of all time as of now??

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  1. PDubs

    PDubs Legend Full Member

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    his manager jackie collins was an idiot and james almost murdered her for it lol
     
    PDubs, Nov 11, 2011
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  2. Zmora

    Zmora Sława!!! Full Member

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    Dude in which universe? Cause in mine he made only 2 fights at lhw...
     
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    Good video

    No he wasn't
     
    JunitoJab, Nov 11, 2011
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  4. Seckah

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    Prime Roy Jones Jr and James Toney at SMW would beat Joe Calzaghe!!! I know some of you guys just started watching boxing when Toney and Jones were getting old and losing fights and Joe was still in shape beating nobodies and looking like the best thing since slice "white bread" but lets be real no way in hell he could beat both these guys in their primes.... At best I would give Joe Cal a SD over Toney (on a bad night) but no way he beats Roy Jones....
     
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  5. Seckah

    Seckah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But James Toney is in the top 5 SMW for sure IMO....
     
    Seckah, Nov 11, 2011
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    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Isnt that the weight that RJJ clowned him at?
     
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  7. PDubs

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    James toney was weight drained and wanted to move up to lhw but was forced into his fight by his **** of a manager jackie collins which james almost killed her for lol literally
     
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    toney 168 resume



    w dewitt (33-7-5)

    w barkley (30-7) - barkley had just previously lost to benn in 1 round and a 37 year old lightweight in duran

    w govenor chavers (9-3-1) - non title fight

    w ricky thomas (11-9-1) - non title fight

    w glen thomas (24-1) - non title fight

    w danny garcia (25-9) - non title fight

    w larry prather (10-10) - non title fight

    w tony thornton (35-5-1)

    w anthony hembrick (27-4-1) non title fight

    w tim littles (24-0)

    w vinson durham (11-6-1) non title fight

    w charles williams (36-5-2)

    L roy jones (one sided beatdown)



    these are toneys fights during his 168 reign, on what basis do you feel he is the greatest super-mid of all time?
     
    HEADBANGER, Nov 11, 2011
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  9. Seckah

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    A top 5 list in no order an just off the top picks would be
    1. Roy Jones Jr
    2. Steve Collins
    3. James Toney
    4. Joe Calzaghe
    5. Chris Eubank
     
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  10. Steenalized

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    No, neither in terms of resume or talent.
     
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  11. Arcane

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    The basis that the only 168lb fight he's seen his whole life is probably Toney vs Barkley.
     
    Arcane, Nov 11, 2011
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  12. PDubs

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    Your a joke and you know nothing about boxing :-( these are the kinds of comments I consider irrelevant, only true boxing fans understand and appreciate defensive fighting styles like Toney, Whitaker, Mayweather, and Archie Moorer. Anyone who slanders them they don't know anything about boxing what so ever, this style alone is the most difficult one to master in boxing and it's a rarity when you find someone who can do it good. James Toney had some of the best boxing talent ever.
     
    PDubs, Nov 11, 2011
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  13. PDubs

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    All the people saying Jones was the best super middle is a joke too because he beat a james toney who was weight drained and not 100 percent, faced just as good of talent as james did. lets not forget when jones beat hopkins it was at MIDDLE and not super middle. I will call jones one of the greatest of all time but not at smw he was great as a middleweight and a lightheavyweight because of his resume there, but even then he got stopped by tarver and johnson
     
    PDubs, Nov 11, 2011
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  14. Steenalized

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    :patsch Toney's resume, just at SMW, is not as deep as others. If I had to pick a H2H fighter at SMW I'm easily going with RJJ over Toney. Ergo, Toney cannot be the greatest SMW ever.
     
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    Roy Jones
    Joe Calzaghe
    Chris Eubank
    Nigel Benn
    James Toney
    Stevie Collins
    Pal Park
     
    slip&counter, Nov 11, 2011
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