Marquez and Morales: Who really is greater?

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  1. ISPEAKUMTROOTH

    ISPEAKUMTROOTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Morales,all day any day.Prime he was outstanding with a heart to shame a lion.What he is doing now means **** all in the big picture.Not taking anything away from JMM but hes not up there.
     
  2. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    In their initial careers, morales had the better resume. It just depends on how history will view JMM's late rise to the top at such a late age. Its a shame he couldnt ever get a win over pac, especially when he won more rounds against him the first two times and schooled him the third.

    I will say morales but Im biased.
     
  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    It is just icing on the cake. I mean he surprised everyone, I thought he was going to get his ass kicked and he comes in there flabby yet having better stamina than the younger guys. Came so close to beating Maidana when everyone thought he was going to get KTFO.
     
  4. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    good luck

    Tijuana is the most beloved boxer on this entire site

    you know pacfarts aren't going to be honest about Juan after he schooled their daddy
     
  5. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you look at it objectively JMM edges it, but on this forum its impossible as Morales is greater than SRR.

    I do love Morales myself as well though, so its hard to go against him.
     
  6. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is a very tough call though.

    Morales does have the superior names and wins on his resume.

    But I did score all 3 fights against Pac to JMM. Now if JMM had those wins, I'd say him as well.

    But Morales' list of names is quite impressive.
     
  7. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you take all robberies away it really shows how good they are behind the smoke and mirrors

    Morales -

    1-2 in close fights with Marco Antonio Barrera
    1-2(2) against Pacquiao
    robbed against Diaz and Maidana when he was out of his prime
    rightfully a 5 weight world champion

    Marquez -
    Robbed of 3 wins against pacquiao and questionable decisions to lesser fighters
    wins a against Diaz 2x, Katsidis, Barrera
    1 sole loss to Mayweather JR. and an early DQ loss
    rightfully a 4 weight world champion
     
  8. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :lol::lol::rofl:rofl:patsch
     
  9. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is close but that said they share the best name, and JMM won it at least twice.
    Morales also is on the losing end of the trilogys + the Raheem loss hurts him.

    Diaz robbery was rediculous though and i thought he edged Maidana.

    I still think JMM edges it but it is a close call, once again though on ESB Morales is God and would KO prime SRR :)
     
  10. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    jmm has better longevity but erik in his prime is greater than jmm for me.
     
  11. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well morales saw pac v Jmm

    7 times !!!!

    lol


    ban this idiot
     
  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    With these two, I think it comes down to preference.
     
  13. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
  14. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Marquez should barely rank higher. Their best wins probably rank like this:

    Morales

    -Pacquiao
    -Barrera
    -Chi
    -Ayala
    -Jones
    -Kelley
    -McCullough
    -Zaragosa

    Marquez:
    -Pacquiao (unofficially in the third fight)
    -Barrera
    -Diaz
    -Jaurez
    -Casamayor
    -Norwood
    -John

    On paper Morales has the better names. But Marquez performed better against Pacquiao, that's the difference between their resumes.
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tough question to answer as both have done so much. I think there is so much going for both that you could argue either way, depending on who you like for what.