Sparring philosophy

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Dark Sider, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're going to go against most views by agreeing with everyone else. Makes sense :good
     
  2. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol fair enough, I didn't read previous posts ha. It never fails though, I go to other gyms seeing their fighters going to war
     
  3. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen some stupid **** in the past. A gym I used to go to the head coach had a couple of 12 year old lads sparring in the ring, one covered in blood from a bloody nose. The one was training for a competition, the other, a new kid, just wanted to get out of there. He made them finish their "match" to "toughen them up". I left that shithole soon after.
     
  4. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey, I never claim to be anything but a novice.

    Thanks for the serious responses.
     
  5. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seems common now a days, trainers stuck in the old school mine set up "manning up" rather than being smart and critiquing their fighters
     
  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yep tech spar for improving and hard sparring for checking ur fitness/skill progression - building confidence close to a match
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    That's not old school mate, that's someone whose clueless
     
  8. norfolkinchance

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    BOOM! this is the amswer. hard sparring has its place but it should make up 20% of your sparring. technical work should make up the other 80%

    eg one jabs one counters the jab for a round then vice versa

    then one throws a 1-2 and the other defends or counters. vice versa etc

    simple.

    i am convinced i could train a raw fighter better than 95% of the trainers out there. most are ****ing clueless.
     
  9. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What would you teach the beginner vs the normal trainer?
     
  10. norfolkinchance

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    In most of the gyms I have trained at I don't see the trainers doing any drills or teaching defence.

    lots of hitting the bags, a bit of padwork, shadowboxing etc

    but no endless repeating of the basics which are required to get something down. hence why so many amateurs make so many mistakes and get hit so much. i would drilll and drill all the basic defences and counters until they were second nature. and that would produce a much better foighter than the majority out there.
     
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    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    norfolk, I felt the same way, started helping a couple people out.
     
  12. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Thats totally correct. We have some belters round here. You'd be suprised how many trainers don't hve any concept of the basics- the very fundamentals of the sport.

    Anyone I train understands the fundamentals- I make sure of that. Any idiot can prescribe exercise- it takes a proper trainer to convey the hows and whys, and at the right time.

    My trainer is a master of that. Thats why I travel 100 miles a day to train with him.
     
  13. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Good stuff, BB. I used to work on my footwork for nearly 30-40 minutes, and other basics, but haven't had the time to get to a fitness gym where I do that stuff.

    Any exercises you can suggest, list them here...it would help me a lot.
     
  14. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So true.

    I'm fortunate that I started my training with a professional coach, who makes sure the fundamentals are in place. Even now, if I'm doing a bit bag work and my feet aren't correct, he'll pull my up on it.

    I'm also quite fortunate in the fact that my amateur gym has a good set of coaches aswell.
     
  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    What are your circumstances mate? You cannot self teach boxing i'm afraid mate - i've never ever seen one decent self taught boxer.