The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by salsanchezfan, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    :dealYep, I agree 100%.
     
  2. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    norton clearly lost the second ali fight
    marquez lost the first two pac fights (i know it's been discussed, just wanted to throw it in there again)
    roy jones is a top 10 all time light heavy
    ricardo lopez beats chang (and proves his all time greatness)
     
  3. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marvin Hagler would have beaten Monzon. Hector Camacho would have probaly decisioned Julio Cesar Chavez at 130 pounds.
     
  4. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    -Tyson would stop Lewis, Holmes, and both Klitschko brothers under 8 rounds.
    -Joey Giardello is a top 10 ATG middleweight.
    -Holyfield has been grossly overrated overtime
    -Sumbu Kalambay is vastly underrated
    -Pacquiao and Mayweather are far from being all time greats
     
  5. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    An up to 20 Lbs weight disadvantage to an opponent is not that impresive in the grand scheme of things.
    The size diiffrance that matters is length is in height and arm length.
     
  6. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Historicaly speaking light welterweight is overrated. Made up with a few expetions of gutys who could not cut it at lightweight or welterweight.
     
  7. Guyfawkes

    Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! Full Member

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    Tyson is more overrated than the Klit's
     
  8. praetorianJJ

    praetorianJJ Conqueror of Worlds Full Member

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    Better than Vespasian? Naaaaah:-(
     
  9. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    :lol:! How about Constantine.
     
  10. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've always thought it to be one of the stronger sub-divisions. With talent like Locche, Cervantes, Pryor, Chavez, Tsyzu, et al.

    Some would say Pryor and Chavez were both better at lightweight.
     
  11. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Chavez - yes.

    Pryor was great anywhere!:D
     
  12. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    On a serious note Pryor just couldn't get a title shot at lightweight that's why he fought Cervantes.
     
  13. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    historically speaking, smaller fighters get too much credit for fighting bigger fighters specifically, middleweights vs heavyweights

    first, the size differential was often far smaller than it is today (sometimes 20-25 pounds). If a 160 pound man beats a 180 pound man, it isn't the same as if a middleweight today fights the klits (course, no one is doing that in modern times so the point is a bit moot)

    two, the quality of the larger man should be factored in far more than it is. a heavyweight of mediocre quality is just a slower, bigger target
     
  14. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I give credit to beating someone 20lbs heavier, not because 'heavyweight' now brings gargantuans to mind.
     
  15. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that's fair and any MUCH smaller fighter deserves credit for overcoming a size difference against a skilled opponent. pac's recent work is incredible, regardless of the weight he put on he's much, much smaller than guys like cotto and margarito. the same for spinks against holmes or jones against ruiz