Put your own bias aside and look at a potential Ward-Bute fight...

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  1. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    s.i.mustata Active Member Full Member

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    Both Ward and Bute have the tools and the ring IQ to make this fight's outcome unpredictable.Ward clearly has faced the better competision but in term of skills and speed the only elite 168er are Ward, Andre Dirrell and Bute. In terms of offence/defence both used their A-plan to outclass their opposition.I believe there is little varriation in their main offensive and deffensive strategies but let's take a look at them:

    Ward's main offensive strategy:
    Uses speed and angles to throw and land first (jab or left hook), his first attack succeds most times and from here, with the opponent fixed, he has the initiative.He uses upperbody movement to avoid counters and continues attack; he moves on the outside using the ring, he attack again the same way when he sees the opportunity

    Ward's main defensive strategy
    If his main attack doesn't give him the upper hand he'll either clinch or go inside. Against the hardpuncher and slow Abraham he clinched more often as it way easier to lock AA's hands; AA wasn't too effective landing power punches anyway. But most cases he transform the boxing dance into an inside fight. Or more of a pushing contest in which very good long jabbers like Kessler anf Froch have a hard time dealing with. Opponent shoud try to move outside but that hard beacause Ward ussualy traps one of their hands (only one who matched him in this puching contest was Bika) Another thing Ward does on the inside is break his opponent locked hands, he uses his hands to tear down their guard. I believe Ward has had intensive inside training maybe against professional wrestlers. Good for him


    Bute's main offensive strategy
    First of all, land the jab, to keep opponent at bay; he looks after openings and footwork advantages, he preffer to be accurate and land with power; when in range he tries to keep the opponent thinking by moving his head; he is taking more time then Ward preparing his attack, he likes more to counter while moving back. Sometime on offensive he hits so hard that the opponent will only keep a high guard, and that when he beguns to let his hands go


    Bute's main defensive strategy
    he uses lateral movement or jumps back when attacked; but after 3-4 rounds he began to throw counters guessing his opponent will attack: uppercut to the body and the chin, left hooks to the body and chin when the chalangers tries to close the distance, and right hooks to the head when he in too close; as long as he lands those with power tho opponent takes notice and either goes on defensive or attack carelessly

    I really can't see how this fight will pan out. I doubt any of the above strategies will be totally effective against eachother
     
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    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Yea yea good comeback. Might as well say "why u mad tho" for consistency's sake. :roll:
     
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    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Sensible post. Range will be key, and I have my doubts that Bute moves around quick enough all night to keep Ward honest. As for Bute jumping back when attacked, I think Ward's answer would simply be more pressure - and Ward's footwork is impeccable.

    What's your official prediction? :D
     
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    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Congratulations, you have just made the 3 most ironic posts in ESB history, yet I'm the one supposedly bringing the forum down?
     
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    s.i.mustata Active Member Full Member

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    Bute's power will keep Ward honest; with the prediction i'll go against the mainstream: with neutral judges Bute close but clear UD
     
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    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    If Bute won't succeed to catch Ward with some hard uppercuts to the body/chin and K.O/T.K.O him I don't think he can deafeat Ward ! Ward has an adaptable style to his opponent style and brake your game plan .

    On the other side, Bute is a smart southpaw who hits hard , has good speed, good footwork and he's slick. Ward dindn't had this kind of opponent during the s6 tournament !

    It's very hard to predict this fight but if Bute won't succeed to K.O/T.K.O Ward , it would be hard for him ( Bute ) to win by decision especially in Ward's hometown.:D
     
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    Fixed
     
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    weren't you politely told to **** off !!!
     
  10. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    :lol::yep
     
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    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    The thing is, I don't think there is anything Bute could do that Ward couldn't adjust to. Ward's the biggest stylistic chameleon of his generation. As soon as Bute starts timing Ward's jab, Ward is doing something else entirely.
     
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    Who are you?
     
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    what do you think the betting odds would be?
     
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    Agree, Ward wins decision
     
  15. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    I do appreciate that, but am thinking Bute has an off chance to induce damage BEFORE Ward adjusts. :D

    You know what, I think we'd be looking at Bute being a 2 to 1 underdog (or underGOD in this case) simply because of his below average track record.

    It's all good I guess. There's nothing I can do to prevent someone from posting here, and I know the guy's a mental midget who enjoys the role of online *******. Not gonna lose any sleep over it, it really is up to him if he wants to be known for his ***** talk on a boxing forum.