Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

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  1. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    marquez eats, breathes, lives, etc etc pacman. jmm is a counter puncher by nature and pacman is a swarmer. they say you box the brawler or you fight the boxer, so those the great style's to matchup in boxing when you have two fighters that employ those styles of boxing at the elite highest level. i think foyd is the most affective counter puncher in the sport along with the best defense. but it takes more then good defense and counter punches to beat manny. you need a full tank for high speed chess and poker, speed and above average power for his above average chin. above average chin for yourself and just to employ your style of boxing at the highest levels humanly possible.

    mayweather by late tko, hes stopping pacman.
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    cool video even though the video maker was tripping at some points

    talking about how Mayweather hasn't ever had to make adjustments everyone else has to make adjustments to him wtf:nut

    Oscar stepped in with his jab making it hard to pullcounter. Mayweather neutralized Oscar's jab by firing back with his own jab along with side to side movements instead of the usual pullcounters.

    Everyone can do an analysis, but it's rare to see someone back their thinking up with actual footage.

    I like how he emphasized that timing is the most important thing in boxing.
     
  3. acr347

    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Alt is following the trend here of fake pac ****/ fake *****.
     
  4. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not enough people realise that.
     
  5. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    exactly, we hear way too much about power, heart, speed, and chins.

    Take a good fighter like Mayweather. The best shots he has taken throughout his career were counters that happened because his opponents managed to time him for that one instance.
     
  6. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Take prospects for example, everyone raved over Lacey's power, or Khan's speed. Andre Ward doesn't have attributes on par with those, but in terms of Ring IQ and craft, he's always been miles ahead. He's gone further as a result, despite being given less fan fare.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are right.

    It GUARANTEES it!
     
  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather being better in every way than Pacquiao dose however Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd.
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  10. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only a ******* would think otherwise.

    More reach.

    More speed.

    Better right hand.

    Better timing.

    Better footwork.

    You are out of your mind not to see this. Pac and Arum do. This is why they are avoiding this fight like the plague.
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    yessir good timing allows a fighter to catch his opponents with punches they can't see. They won't be able to brace themselves and roll with the shot if they don't know where it's coming from.
     
  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    You're on Floyd's nuts so hard that you can't see that styles make fights, and Floyd has habits that are a liability against a mobile and explosive southpaw; no fighter is perfect. Please don't post in my thread anymore if you're going to post broad things like "speed, timing", etc. Individual attributes with no context don't contribute anything to fight breakdowns. And *****s can stop calling me a ******* when I have Marquez winning all 3 fights in their trilogy.
     
  13. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have Marquez drawing the first and winning the next two by 2 and 3 points.

    I do think that if we get the fight now, it will be a watered down version of what we could of had in 2008.
     
  14. Tekniqs

    Tekniqs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl you pretty much just ****ed yourself over with that part
     
  15. box247

    box247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    2010 may end of 2009 if he hadn't fought cotto. Before then pac was moving up to welter he fought hatton and oscar in 2008 and mayweather wasnt being considered. Until he became a draw at welter