Whats wrong with Jorge Linares?????

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  1. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People are always too quick to claim that the 'chin' is at fault. Maybe Linares does have bad punch resistance (I don't really follow his career), but what about defence? If you have a great defence you can get away with it. You're not even supposed to be taking repeated shots to win -- that's a sign that something is wrong. Hit and don't get hit. From what I saw, Linares has a decent offence but his defence consists of leaning away from shots or turning his head with the blow, trying to roll with it. He clearly needs more than that. Look at Khan -- his defence is also bad, but his style of tucking up behind a guard works better for him than trying to lean away or roll with the shots. Speaking of Khan, I was reminded of him when I watched Linares get caught by Thompson's overhand right. That's the same shot Khan got shaken by when he fought Maidana. Khan was almost stopped in that round, too.

    It does seem to be too much of a coincidence that Khan, Pac and Linares all have defensive problems. Pac can get away with them against most people because he has a great chin and he's simply a better fighter than the other two. Khan and Linares, however, need to address it. Khan needs to focus on defence on the inside as well as tactics to neutralise infighters, while Linares needs to work on pretty much every possible area of defence. He'd probably be best served by switching to a different trainer, because Roach seems to emphasise offence.
     
  2. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Got caught, bad cut.

    Seem he could have recuperated from the kds...

    Bad D and bad luck...

    No need to hate...

    some tards here.
     
  3. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    He asked for experts to weigh-in, know-nothing ****** noob.
     
  4. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    He needs to develop a defence that suits him. A more simple style, fighting behind a high guard maybe? He doesn't seem comfortable trying to roll with the punches, so blocking them rather than avoiding them might be an answer. He doesn't have the durability to get away with a bad defence. A move from the WildCard might be necessary.

    It's frustrating because he can fight beautifully at times; his offense and combinations are poetry-in-motion.
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Some of the responses in this thread are shameful.
     
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    Only the GBP fan boys aka *****s hyped him up because they are in the same promotional company.
     
  7. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    He was unable to carry his power up to light weight the way Pacquiao and Marquez did.
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    He has a Glass Jaw. Just goes to show you can have all the skills in the World but if you don't have a Chin it doesn't matter.
     
  9. edouardleniqueu

    edouardleniqueu Active Member Full Member

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    You summed up perfectly what the problem is with Linares: he's brilliant and flashy offensively, like you said beautiful to watch - poetry in motion
    Offensively he has it all.
    But boxing is not artistic ice skating, so it's not about beauty, you need a defense to be sucessful, and I think this aspect of this game has been underdeveloped: his head movements are almost non existent, he does not parry punches, he does not clinch efficiently when hurt, his guard is too loose, he has little defensive reflexes
    I still believe he can learn some defense with time and dedication
     
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  11. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fishy stoppage tbh but Linares shouldn't have been on ***** street and knocked down by such a boxer in the first place.
     
  12. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    I agree wholeheartedly. It is an absolute disgrace that so many people don't know a Glass Jaw when it is thrust in their face!:lol::rofl:patsch
     
  13. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Pretty much.

    **** all the chin ***s though.
     
  14. PhonyGamboa

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    Yes...Yes...and Yes. Plenty of examples of boxers like these in history, so when it happens, it's surprising but it really should not be.
     
  15. bballchump11

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    :rofl:deal