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Is Cotto vs Mayweather another set up match ?

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sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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Convicted_Felon said: ↑

Hatred makes people blind to the obvious. Would a self respecting champion do anything besides fight his heart out to retain his championship and to be known as the fighter who handed PBF his 1st loss? Just stop it with the fixed fight theories. If you guys want to see some fights that are fixed, all you have to do is look at fights promoted by Bob Arum. Bob was the one who had his office raided by the FBI for suspicions of fight fixing.

If you guys want an example of a set up match, all you need to do is check out Marquez vs Ramos. Marquez had just given Bob options on his fights so he could get his hands on Pacquaio. In order to generate more interest in the bout, Marquez had to go out there and look impressive. Likar Ramos did a **** poor job of acting lie he was out cold. Fighters don't prop themselves up on their elbows, land softly on the canvass, and be out cold. It's more like a fighter takes a monster shot, hits his head on the canvass very hard, then lays out cold.

Sugar Shane Mosley found himself not throwing any punches after Floyd stood up to his assault. That's unlike Pacquiao-Clottey where Clottey seemingly got to Pacquiao when he hit him. He just didn't throw enough punches to win and there was an interview with him in his native land where he pretty much admitted to throwing the fight on the behest of Bob Arum. Set up fights are TR's M.O.
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Yes, a champion would take a dive if he is offered the biggest purse in his
carreer. Ortiz was not very popular and Never thought he would be given the chance to fight Floyd. If the offer is good why not believe it ?

sweetray, Apr 28, 2012

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Mosley clearly stopped throwing punches after hurting Floyd in the second round. This is very suspicious.
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you can tell you have never been in a boxing ring before..

and your other posts show you have NO IDEA of boxing in or out of the ring...

go back to 4chan

Bazt3k, Apr 28, 2012

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sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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Bazt3k said: ↑

you can tell you have never been in a boxing ring before..

and your other posts show you have NO IDEA of boxing in or out of the ring...

go back to 4chan
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I do not need to be in a ring to see what is going on.

sweetray, Apr 28, 2012

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sweetray said: ↑

Mosley clearly stopped throwing punches after hurting Floyd in the second round. This is very suspicious.
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This is a lie. He just was never able to land after that and Floyd found his rhythm and started landing right hands, and counters all night..

boxsensei, Apr 28, 2012

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You are a ****ing remploy.

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Convicted_Felon said: ↑

Hatred makes people blind to the obvious. Would a self respecting champion do anything besides fight his heart out to retain his championship and to be known as the fighter who handed PBF his 1st loss? Just stop it with the fixed fight theories. If you guys want to see some fights that are fixed, all you have to do is look at fights promoted by Bob Arum. Bob was the one who had his office raided by the FBI for suspicions of fight fixing.

If you guys want an example of a set up match, all you need to do is check out Marquez vs Ramos. Marquez had just given Bob options on his fights so he could get his hands on Pacquaio. In order to generate more interest in the bout, Marquez had to go out there and look impressive. Likar Ramos did a **** poor job of acting lie he was out cold. Fighters don't prop themselves up on their elbows, land softly on the canvass, and be out cold. It's more like a fighter takes a monster shot, hits his head on the canvass very hard, then lays out cold.

Sugar Shane Mosley found himself not throwing any punches after Floyd stood up to his assault. That's unlike Pacquiao-Clottey where Clottey seemingly got to Pacquiao when he hit him. He just didn't throw enough punches to win and there was an interview with him in his native land where he pretty much admitted to throwing the fight on the behest of Bob Arum. Set up fights are TR's M.O.
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Link to article?

RobertV77, Apr 28, 2012

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ABSOLUTELY! WELL SAID. :hat

rjamesd1, Apr 28, 2012

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boxsensei said: ↑

This is a lie. He just was never able to land after that and Floyd found his rhythm and started landing right hands, and counters all night..
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Why do you ignore that after 2 rounds mosley slowed down and did nothing to win this fight. Even commentators of this fight were critizising Mosley during the fight for not throwing punches. After hurting Floyd it looks like he remembered or was reminded what he had to do.

sweetray, Apr 28, 2012

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So let me get this straight, Ortiz, Mosley, and Cotto are too big of a challenge for Mayweather to overcome legitimately, and therefore he needs them to take a dive in order to beat them? Is that what we're saying here?

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BigReg said: ↑

So let me get this straight, Ortiz, Mosley, and Cotto are too big of a challenge for Mayweather to overcome legitimately, and therefore he needs them to take a dive in order to beat them? Is that what we're saying here?
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Do not feed the troll.

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EVERY fight is a "Set-UP" fight...
Meaning a win set's up a potential clash Vs. another fighter.

Do promoters match up fighter's they perceive to be be easier fights to ensure "their" man has the best possibility to come out with a "W" then yes, Absolutely.
(Thank (Insert Your man in the sky here...) for the underdog)

Hatesrats, Apr 28, 2012

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sweetray said: ↑

Why do you ignore that after 2 rounds mosley slowed down and did nothing to win this fight. Even commentators of this fight were critizising Mosley during the fight for not throwing punches. After hurting Floyd it looks like he remembered or was reminded what he had to do.
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Mosley was throwing to the body knowing how floyd would defend it, this in turn set up hit head attack

Once floyd had seen this he made adjustments to not get hit like this again

Someone posted examples before here from that fight showing how Mayweather countered Mosleys gameplan

oibighead, Apr 28, 2012

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The only reason Floyd scheduled this fight was to stay out of jail. Unfortunately for Floyd, he couldn't find a patsy in time and had to pick Cotto - a dangerous fighter - in time to get the Nevada State Boxing Commision to grant his Boxing License for the May 5 fight and keep him out of jail.

Floyd better hope it was worth it.

Jimmy The Geek, Apr 28, 2012

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Also I doubt three of the biggest fighters in the sport would take dives, when if Floyd truly couldnt beat them, and Ortiz, Cotto and Mosley won then it would propel them to the top of the p4p list... Making them buckets of money in the future.

oibighead, Apr 28, 2012

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sweetray said: ↑

Mosley clearly stopped throwing punches after hurting Floyd in the second round. This is very suspicious.
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Whereas Pacquiao's points win over Marquez was completely clean . . . atsch

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