The last heavyweight champion that Tommy Burns could beat?

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  1. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Burns got beat up, yes, but he was not knock out. Whats so hard to understand about this.
     
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  2. mcvey

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    He was on the verge of being knocked out when the police stopped it.

    What's so hard to understand about that?
     
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  3. Seamus

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    Marvin Hart
     
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  4. Seamus

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    I'm waiting for someone to say Roy Jones, Jr.
     
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  5. janitor

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    I think that Burns was about to be knocked out, but can we realy hold it against a man his size being stopped by an ATG heavyweight.

    The Pelkey fight is one that particularly persuades me of Burns's durability. Pelkey was a renowned puncher of over 200lbs, in his prime, and a declining Burns slugged it out with him giving as good as he got.
     
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  6. janitor

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    Not a real champion.
     
    janitor, May 30, 2012
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  7. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    How people see Johansson vs Burns ? :hey:
     
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  8. smitty78

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    What about Burns vs Fitzsimmons? He was probably every bit as good as him yet Fitzsimmons is portrayed as a H2H monster.
     
    smitty78, May 30, 2012
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  9. janitor

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    Fitz would probably have been favoured over Burns by many, if they had fought when Burns was the champion!

    If contemporary opinion counts for anything, then Fitz is on a different level.

    Basicaly, Burns needed a weak point in the division to become champion in any era, and Fitz didn't.
     
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  10. Kalasinn

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    So Spinks can stop a huge man like Cooney, but not a 5'7 midget? :huh

    Ok i'm 5'6... but seriously 5'7 is a midget at Lightheavy, let alone at Cruiser or Heavy.
     
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  11. afterglow

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    :think

    He was the champ three years. How could someone not accept that?
     
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  12. afterglow

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    This thread would've been better if it were, "Who was the last LHW champ Tommy Burns could beat"?
     
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  13. Seamus

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    Nor were those that held the color line, imo.
     
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  14. Seamus

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    I think we could start a discussion at the last welter champ he could beat.
     
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  15. mcvey

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    I hold nothing against Burns, I just took exception to poster Dempsey stating Johnson could not ko Burns, because it is patently ridiculous, when Johnson got down to business he quickly had Burns on ***** street.Burns was saved by the bell in the 13th rd, and on the floor 4 times before the police stepped in.
    I'm a fan of Little Tommy's , but lets be real here.
    Burns was dropped in fights, his chin was nothing exceptional.


    Pelkey a renowned puncher?

    Really ,who of any class did he stop?

    PLEEEEEZE don't say McCarty.:nono
     
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