Top 5 reasons Vitaly is overrated and not a top 20 ATG

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  1. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Well saying that Byrd is one of the 2 best fighters he fought is MASSIVELY debateable.

    How exactly do you work that out?
     
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  2. irishny

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    Name 19 better heavyweights in history
     
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    stanislove12 Active Member Full Member

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    ok fair enough... list your top 20, come on don't be shy.
     
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  4. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Besides Lewis did he fight a more accomplished or skilled fighter than Byrd? I for one don't think so, but Im willing to entertain arguments if you have them.
     
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  5. beat down

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    20 better heavywieghts

    Ali
    Joe louis
    Mike tyson
    Evander Holyfield
    Jack Johnson
    Jack Dempsey
    Rocky Marciano
    George Foreman
    Gene Tunney
    Lennox lewis
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Ezzard Charles
    Larry Holmes
    Archie Moore
    Joe Frazier
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Sonny Liston
    Riddick Bowe
    Max Schmeling
    Michael Spinks
     
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  6. UndisputedChamp

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    Exactly so its not a fact
     
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  7. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey there, jab my homie. I was wondering where you are and here is where I find you bashing the klits as usual. :yep
     
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  8. irishny

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    Michael Spinks...heavyweight....he had a record of 4-1 at heavyweight,one of those wins was against Stepfan Tangstad...slap yourself!

    Archie Moore...ATG Heavyweight????

    Seriously dude,I could go on but that list SUCKS!
     
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  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Head to head I think he's an absolute monster. Legacy wise, he falls short. I can't call a guy an ATG who's best wins are Herbie Hide, Corrie Sanders, Sam Peter, and Kirk Johnson. In his defense, his defeat to Chris Byrd is a tad over stated. He basically dominated that fight and quit due to an injury that had nothing to do with anything Byrd did to him.. The Lewis defeat is a bit harder to justify. He fought gallantly in that match and was probably winning, before that huge cut was opened. But he still lost to a man who was off for a full year, fighting at a career high weight, and at 37 years of age was on the ass end of his career.. I like Vitali and would pick him to beat a number of hall of fame heavy's due to his size, strength, chin and outside fighting game. But his resume doesn't crack the top 20 for me.. Head to head and legacy are two totally different animals.
     
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  10. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No order....

    Louis
    Ali
    Johnson
    Foreman
    Lewis
    Liston
    Tyson
    Holyfield
    Marciano
    Frazier
    Dempsey
    Walcott
    Charles
    Bowed
    Wlad
    Holmes
    Norton
    Jeffries
    Wills
    Langford
     
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  11. beat down

    beat down Active Member Full Member

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    he beat larry homles that one win is better that vitalis whole resume dick weed, Archie Moore had the most ko's of any boxer in the sport, u need to go a study youngin, he beat floyd patterson for the title again better than anybody quitali has ever beat.
     
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  12. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His resume is terrible but through no fault of his own, it's just a dire era of heavyweight Boxing. If he was in a different era he could have been one of the greatest but he wasn't, he's in this era so his resume is still ****ing terrible.
     
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  13. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only thing I disagree about is the Byrd fight. He was winning decisively on the cards, but the rounds were close. The crowd even cheered for Byrd after putting up the effort he did. I think quitting though hurts his legacy, but that just my opinion. History may or may not judge differently.
     
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  14. haworths623

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    6. He ducked David Haye and SNV
     
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  15. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What's good my man!

    You know I gotta keep the nuthuggers in line bro. Just be a fan...don't overrate! :lol:
     
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