ATGs who don't look impressive on film.

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Monzon is the essence of championship fighting. It is not something that can be distilled down into a highlight package, but it is a joy to watch for the experienced observer.
     
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    Harry Wills
     
  3. Flea Man

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    I don't even think it's a 'highlight package' thing. He is a championship fighter no doubt but so were Sanchez and Arguello and yet their's some immediacy in getting their style over.

    I am sad to say the first fight of Monzon's I got my hands on was.........



    The second Griffith fight :-(
     
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    I can't pt in to words my hatred for Monzon's style, no way can that mother****er dance.
     
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    He's a sipping drink, for hipsters only
     
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    From a purely aesthetic standpoint, I totally get what Synth is saying. I too get that Monzon is great, but it's frankly a bit difficult to back a fighter whose style revolves around the complete avoidance of risk. It may make him a great fighter. I don't think anyone here could intelligently argue against that, but he's got to be one of the most boring, least inspiring fighters to watch.
     
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    Nah, not certified you can't be in that division.

    Sumbu FTW :deal
     
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    Marciano can't truly be appreciated on film. Until a fighter shared 20-feet with him, and was hit everyplace but the soles of his feet, he must have looked like a clumsy journeyman.
     
  9. Bill Butcher

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    Watched the last 3 quarters of it last night mate, forgot to tell you.

    Very good fight, Rose in this fight reminded me stylewise of Robinson when he fought Lamotta. I think Harada was a little more competitive vs Rose than Jake was vs SRR but it looked to me as if Rose controlled the fight with his much superior jab, footwork & accuracy in general, Harada looks tough as **** & just kept coming but that was a Rose victory (I`m assuming, it cut off before the verdict was announced.)

    :good
     
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    Hipster bashing says more about the basher than the bashee.
     
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    The guy is definitely not Jamaica certified.

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  12. Unforgiven

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    That's the only footage I've seen.
     
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  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Doesn`t matter, its just personal opinion.

    I can see & even appreciate how effective Monzon is, he`s incredibly accurate & that doesn`t change from round 1-15 but I feel his size & strength at MW more so than his outright ability is the main reason for his dominance. I could see someone like Robinson boxing the **** out of him because he could take what Monzon could dish out, has the gas tank & will to still be strong in rounds 12-15 & has tremendous speed.

    Monzon is quite slow as it is, he might even look stuck in the mud vs a true thoroughbred like Ray Robinson, Monzon looks flawed & beatable to me, he just never fought anyone that has the attributes combined with talent to get it done IMO.
     
  15. Seamus

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    Wills ain't fair because all we have is a used up version of him to look at.

    This will irk some but Jeanette and McVea both look like **** on film. You really have to adjust for the time, their having to learn on the job and such. Heroes and Greats they were. Just doesn't translate in a modern sense to film.