T.K.O. in 6

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol, not a single person who voted yes has explained what makes Vits resume on par with those of other ATG's. Very interesting!
     
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    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You missed out chisora.

    And the biggest scalp of them all...

    Retiring Lemmux the Canadian ATG

    That alone makes him atg
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Less than 20 fights Chisora was no great win, and we can hardly count his TKO6 loss as a win.
     
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    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can only deal with the fighters in your era. Vitali beat most of them he faced, he only lost two fights, one in a fight he dominated where he retired due to physical problems with his body and another to an atg heavyweight. Vitali is arguably not a top 10 heavyweight of all time but will be in the top 20 for sure. He would give any heavyweight in history a competitive fight.
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Could you justify this please?
     
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    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    -Less that 20fights??
    What's that got to do with it?

    Had sonny liston beaten Ali who had 19fights at the time would that be a good win or **** win?
    :rofl:patsch
    Tko6 was so bad that it retired lemmux. And despite it being a loss on paper it was an eventwin6 for vitali. Retired the champ forever.

    Vlad = atg just deal with it
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox had already planned on retiring. Do you need the link? And what does less than 20 bfights have to do with it? I don't know, why not let him fight guys with less than 10 fights or even 5 fights for that matter. Are you really that thick? :patsch
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One small step for man...one giant leap for Vittles!
     
  9. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok to say top 20 'for sure' is a statement not a fact. I believe he is top 20. His height, reach, strength and ring generalship would surely be a challenge to any heavyweight of any era. I am not saying he would beat the greats but he certainly would test all of them. I don't believe his resume can be compared to the likes of Holmes, Marciano, Dempsey, Ali etc but he along with his brother were the best of their era after Lewis retired.
     
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    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He dominated his era. That is all you can ask of any champion.
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    H2h I agree with you, he is among the best. But his resume is sorely lacking and keeps him quite a ways away from being an ATG in my opinion.
     
  12. madballster

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    When you ask "Is Vitali an ATG", what does that mean precisely? Top 10 ATG? Top 20 ATG? Top 100 ATG? Top 500 ATG?

    If we use equal-weight criteria of resume vs. h2h ability vs. mainstream appeal then I think you will find it hard to deny Vitali a spot among the 50 best and most influential HWs that ever lived.

    Is Vitali a top 10 ATG? I don't think so, not with a mediocre resume like that. Top 50? Probably. So is Vitali an ATG? Yes, history will refer to him as one of the best couple dozen HWs that ever lived.
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Could it be the nearly 30 top 10 fighters he fought? Maybe the 4 top 10 ATG'S? Gee, Im really not sure you moron! :patsch
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Personally I like top 20. But to each his own if that person is willing to provide a list and explain.
     
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    I personally have him outside of top 20, but inside top 35. Not too shabby for a clumsy and robotic former kickboxer.