Cotto and Roach want to drain GGG to 155 lbs for a MW title fight unification

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    He called Cotto out but didn't say he'd fight at 154 or 155. That 154 was for Floyd.
     
  2. Ezzard Charles

    Ezzard Charles Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no difference.... cotto just as small as mayweather

    if your gonna call out smaller guys, wanting a shot at the big money you're gonna have to compromise.....


    he keeps fighting and koing jr middles.....

    either step up or drop down.... he's being a ***** for calling out small guys period, he's ducking ward like the plague.... why not call out froch?
     
  3. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    that shows you what is wrong with the term "lineal champion". how the hell can you be considered the man at 160 when you have never fought anyone at a full 160lbs?
     
  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thats all TALK.

    He aint fighting GGG at ANY weight.:deal

    End thread.
     
  5. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    indeed, Cotto doesn't deserve the 'lineal champion' status of the mw division if he doesn't defend or unify his mw title @ 160 lbs weight ! He can fight whoever he wants from the mw division but he should do it at 160 lbs , not c/w !:good
     
  6. El-blanco

    El-blanco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes because then he won't be a fraud. You can't be the "lineal" middleweight champ and ask a guy to fight you at 155, it's a total ***** move. Ggg said he'd fight 154 to 68, meaning he'd go fight a jmw at 154, not the current "lineal" middleweight champ at 155.
     
  7. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    most probably. Floyd and Canelo are his main options to defend his mw title @ 155 lbs.
     
  8. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he wants to get paid. period. thats what you get when you keep calling small guys who are the A side. you have to make a choice. lineal tittle is bul**** but it is what it is.
     
  9. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    :good:deal:deal

    Some people are ******ed and annoying !

    GGG said he's willing to fight Floyd, Canelo or Cotto @ 154 lbs cos this is their weight class and they are PPV fighters. As well for Chavez Jr @ 168.

    But now its a different story cos Cotto is the 'lineal' mw champ !
     
  10. HolyCityBully

    HolyCityBully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cotto has the leverage.

    Since dealing with Pac and Floyd, he seems to have learned about how to use it.

    All the people who defended Pac and Floyd cant really say a gotdamn thing about this.
     
  11. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let me explain it slowly since you are having a hard time grasping it...

    GGG is a MIDDLEWEIGHT title holder. Cotto is a MIDDLEWEIGHT title holder. The weight limit for middleweight is 160lbs. not 159, not 155. its 160.
    If Cotto was a juniormiddleweight champion and Golovkin was calling him out, nobody would have a problem with a catch weight.

    Also, neither Ward or Froch are middleweight title holders or even ranked at 160. Go ahead, look it up if you dont believe me. If anybody, I mean anybody in the WORLD was qualified, a decent draw, and was willing to fight at 160, do you honestly believe GGG wouldnt fight them?

    Look at it this way...who wins between Froch or GGG if Carl sucks himself down to 160? GGG or Ward? Wanna see Floyd come up to 160 and fight GGG? You haters are constantly trying to put GGG at a disadvantage in the hopes he will lose, but go ahead and admit it, you will feel better...

    Gennady Golovkin is the best middleweight in the world, and would be favored to beat anybody in the world in that division. Thats the way it is. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. Deal with it :hi: :deal
     
  12. El-blanco

    El-blanco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't believe people are defending a middle weight champion asking for a catch weight. I don't care if he's a small middle weight. Fact is, he's fighting at middle weight. If Andrade wanted to fight at 54 I'd have no issue, how people can't see the difference is baffling.
     
  13. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Middle weight starts at 160 get your big boy pants on Cotto or leave
     
  14. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This would be like candle-floyd. Two champions fighting at a catch weight. Good if they both agree and not forcing another to get handicapped.
     
  15. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The impossible thing about catch weight to figure out is who is it helping or hurting more? And then after a catch weight it is said that it either didn't matter at all, or it was all the difference in the world. There is nothing but pure pandemonium and confusion regarding catch weights and where to give the credit too so that's why I wish they didn't exist but they do, and as long as they do fighter's will continue to use them.

    That's the fact of all this, something exists that a person believes will help them, and they have the opportunity to use it, then there is a big chance that person will use it. That is a natural human thing to do, but the problem is not the person, it's the fact that the helpful/advantageous opportunity exists when it shouldn't.