Calzaghe aside- who is the GOAT at 168?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    the Reid fight was Ottke at the end of his career, but half of the wins? Name them
     
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    Accomplishments.
     
  3. Loudon

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    bailey,

    I've no problem with that. I think Eubank was past his absolute best, but I give credit to Collins for the wins.

    I just can't see how they were two good wins.

    Nobody, but you have to put things into context. He retired through injury in the first fight, and then he quit in the second. You make it sound like he was knocked out. When it was a guy who had nothing left, like when Oscar and Tyson couldn't finish their fights against Manny and McBride.

    They were decent, but I think other guys should be rated higher.

    We don't need to argue the Toney and Eubank wins again. But I think that Roy did more than Collins at the weight. Like Collins, Roy didn't have many fights at the weight. But absolutely easy wins over Toney, Malinga, and Lucas etc, give him the edge in my opinion.

    With regards to Ward, I don't agree. I think that Froch is/was on the same level as the version of Eubank who Collins fought. I also believe that both Froch and Kessler were better than the versions of Benn that Collins fought.
     
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    Why are people voting Jones when he had like one decent win at the weight over a fellow PED cheat?
     
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    Other than Toney what's his best win at 168? :think
     
  8. Auracle21

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    Ward> Calzaghe. FAILEY do your thing LOL
     
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    Oh, look the butt hurtness arrives despite this having noting to do with 'Zaggers
     
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    I'm waiting Failey
     
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    If it's to discuss 'Zaggers do it on a thread that has something to do with him..

    If you think Ward is above "Zaggers than bailey is clearly above your payscale and he will mop the floor with you.
     
  12. MVC!

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    A.Ward is already closing in, probably will surpass Calzaghe by the end of his career.
     
  13. Auracle21

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    Surpass? lol He doens't wait til fighters turn 40 to fight them. Ward is easily better now.
     
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    Eubank was the greatest super-middleweight, including Calzaghe, including Jones. No question.
     
  15. Auracle21

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    It scares me that you are a female lol