Why does floyd get grief for cherry picking but the likes of Duran never do

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  1. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    Hand/Back issues? Margarito is a disgrace to the sport. Got absolutely pummeled by SSM, didn't do a thing without the wraps. Williams i would have liked to see, but he would get caught up in losing to Quinana, avenge that loss, and then have to move up in weight immediately after May-Hatton. The timeline doesn't fit.
     
  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People are more forgiving of taking on easier opponents every now and then when you're always fighting. Both Mayweather and Duran won their first world titles at 21: Duran in 1972, Floyd in 1998. Here are each man's number of fights per year up until Floyd's current age.

    Duran fights per year:
    1972: 6
    1973: 8
    1974: 8
    1975: 7
    1976: 4
    1977: 4
    1978: 4
    1979: 3
    1980: 4
    1981: 2
    1982: 3
    1983: 3
    1984: 1
    1985: Zero
    1986: 3
    1987: 2
    1988: 3
    1989: 2

    Floyd fights per year:
    1998: 7
    1999: 3
    2000: 2
    2001: 3
    2002: 2
    2003: 2
    2004: 1
    2005: 3
    2006: 2
    2007: 2
    2008: Zero
    2009: 1
    2010: 1
    2011: 1
    2012: 1
    2013: 2
    2014: 2
    2015: 2 (with September fight)

    Then look at this...
    Check out these 11 fights over 8 years...

    1977: Viruet (LW)
    1978: De Jesus (LW)
    1979: Palomino (WW)
    1980: Leonard 2x (WW)
    1981: Minchillo (SWW)
    1982: Benitez (SWW)
    1983: Cuevas (SWW) , Moore (SWW), Hagler (MW)
    1984: Hearns (SWW)

    Speaks for itself...

    But I don't consider either man a cherry picker. It's just that Duran is the furthest thing from a cherry picker I've seen in my lifetime.
     
  3. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran is a cherry quitter! No mas! No mas!
     
  4. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where is the logic if Pacquiao fought far worse versions of DLH, Mosley, Hatton and arguably Cotto? Would you call Pacman a worse cherry picker? He's not anywhere near the worst cherry picker out there, he fights high calibre opponents in the shape of their lives more often than not.

    Mayweather fights guys off their most impressive wins usually.
     
  5. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can't you just give other great fighters credit? It doesn't diminish Floyd, I promise.
     
  6. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't quit and say no mas? :huh Was that a different Duran? Floyd has never said, "no more! no more!"
     
  7. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :conf I tried.
     
  8. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :huh I still don't understand. Duran is a quitter, no? Isn't he related to Geale?
     
  9. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good talking to you, man. Mature discourse as usual.
     
  10. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Moved up in weight to beat a prime Leonard.

    Better than almost anything anyone has else done in boxing.

    He gets a free pass after that in my book.
     
  11. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And leading against Hagler after 12 in a fight he ended up losing is equally impressive to me.
     
  12. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Then the icing on the cake Iran Barkley ! Duran was a monster
     
  13. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    You're grasping at straws. Paul Williams called Floyd out in the post-fight interview when he won a close decision over Margarito. That's when the Floyd-Williams fight should have happened.

    As for Margarito vs Floyd, well, you know. Floyd hid in his mansion for two years because Margarito was walking through guys like Sergio Martinez, Joshua Clottey, and Miguel Cotto like they were butter.

    Floyd waited for someone with KO power to knock Margarito out. Shane Mosley did it, and two weeks later, Floyd announced he was coming back to boxing. He didn't say why, but I think you're smart enough to figure that out on your own.
     
  14. markclow

    markclow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Either one of these is more than PBF has ever done, however talented he is (very).
     
  15. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Duran wasnt a cherry picker lets get real...