So. . .HBO team was directly incriminating Roach to my ear. Anyone else think that?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Monogamous STD, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    8,958
    Likes Received:
    10,426
    It probably makes more sense when you factor in that Matthysse might well have felt he could not win fight, going into the Championship Rounds. Combine that with receiving what Matthysse himself implied was an eye injury and you have all the reason you need for him failing to make the count.

    Regardless of the punches he was taking from Provodnikov, in his previous contest, Matthysse was in control of that fight. Victory was always within his grasp.

    There may well be some other hidden reason for why Matthysse called it a day against Postol but, from where I'm standing, it looks fairly straightforward.
     
  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2015
    Messages:
    9,176
    Likes Received:
    5,963
    Postol was only 1 point ahead in 2 scorecards and mathysse was 1 point ahead in 1 scorecard, it's not like lucas was losing the fight blatantly. Not so straight forward imho.
     
  3. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2007
    Messages:
    10,417
    Likes Received:
    333
    The wildcard gym is well known for being an aggressive gym. They train offense, that's their thing. A lot of their defense is throwing shots and putting bad intentions to keep them guys off.. even Roy commented on how tough they become because of the killers they're facing in sparring. . They have world class punchers going at it on a regular basis. .
    I was surprised how easily Postol shook some of those big shots off.. you could see they moved him but his eyes always stayed clear and he never lost focus for a moment. . A lot of potential there. . Can't wait to see him and Bud get it on. . Hella lot of talent in that match. .
     
  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    8,958
    Likes Received:
    10,426
    Which means his more saintly twin, Troy Tempest, possesses infinitely more wit than Max could ever hope for.

    This content is protected
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2008
    Messages:
    27,003
    Likes Received:
    133
    Roach's combo of PED's, shot fighters and catch weights does wonders for fighter's careers. :hey
     
  6. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    8,958
    Likes Received:
    10,426
    I know what the scorecards read. Did it really look that close to you? It didn't to me.

    Besides - Matthysse wasn't to have known what was written on the scorecards, was he? It is more likely he thought he was behind on the cards.

    Overcomplicate it all you like. Matthysse felt he couldn't win, caught an injury and decided enough was enough - it really is that simple.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    84,477
    Likes Received:
    140,634
    :lol: Tempest's eyes look more real than Kellerman's though. Max has weird bug eyes. He's a pretty suave dude though.

    http://i.imgur.com/muxHSB5.png
     
  8. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2008
    Messages:
    12,938
    Likes Received:
    55



    You called it...!

    Bunch of Losers on this Forum...starting with Flamer boy CST80..!!!
     
  9. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2015
    Messages:
    9,176
    Likes Received:
    5,963
    I actually agreed more with the one thinking that mathysse was winning the fight. So yes, I saw that close the fight. Mathysse took massive beating "for fun" (no belt) vs provo, and he quits vs armpunched jabs with a belt involved. Control doesnt matter s***. Simplify that as much as you want to, it's not that simple, you dont waste the opportunity of your life because of 3 or 4 armjabs. And for those saying that postol hits hard, I remember you that he knocked out nobody yesterday. This f@ggot just quitted.
     
  10. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2013
    Messages:
    8,972
    Likes Received:
    89
    They are in Stage 1 Denial because of all the weeks spent building up Matthysee as a killer over light hitting no power Postol. But isn't it amazing what using boxing skill and fighting smart can do?!
     
  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    8,958
    Likes Received:
    10,426
    Whatever...

    I suspect most people saw Postol being ahead (probably by a wider margin than the official scorecards) and, if we take the 86-85 scorecards for Postol as the marker, Postol was about to go ahead 96-93 on two cards with two rounds to go, even if Matthysse had continued. So, look, you carry on thinking there's something fishy about his not making the count in the 10th, if you want.

    Bottomline is that Matthysse made a decision, based on what he perceived was going on in the fight and picking up what he has already suggested was an eye injury. That's all there is to be said on it.
     
  12. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2015
    Messages:
    9,176
    Likes Received:
    5,963
    Well, I guess red code is right and I'm in stage 1 Denial, wouldnt be the first time. :conf
     
  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    8,958
    Likes Received:
    10,426
    :yep But the only thing suave about Max is, therefore, the high gloss finish on his shoes... ...and a leather armchair ;)
     
  14. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2008
    Messages:
    16,462
    Likes Received:
    2,426
    Nobody complained when Mayweather did it to Canelo though.
     
  15. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2011
    Messages:
    22,209
    Likes Received:
    5,428
    :good