Charles Martin is from the hoodz of StLouis! AJ from nice British town! Martin kO5

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The American streets don't produce real toughness anymore because of the welfare state. We currently have a very generous welfare state which allows low income people access to food and shelter.

    It's not like it used to be back when Jack Dempsey was fighting. Where you won the fight or go hungry, in a literal sense.

    Nowadays the real determination and desire comes from Eastern Europe, South America and the Phillippines. Which is why those guys are some hardass dudes. They come from nothing.
     
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    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes because that's always the case, if you come from a rough part of town you must be hard as nails.

    Sort yourself out.

    Marco Antonio Barrera came from a middle class family and went to do a law degree.
     
  3. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    AJ is a wanna be thug

    Sold drugs when he didnt have to lol
     
  4. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Thats the xception not the rule.

    Guys like Pac/Morales/Canelo are living proof
     
  5. Plastic gangster.

    Only 3 hours until AJ gets Thompsoned
     
  6. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If this was true then 3rd world boxers from Africa who now have access to American style training and knowledge would dominate but they don't. Just a complete urban myth. "very generous" welfare state, only 23% of poor get cash benefits compared to 60% in the 90's. What are you talking about Trump/Cruz voter?! Welfare state is much more robust in the UK and they are on a surge lately in boxing. As I said, a myth.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd have to see those numbers. But in the 90s is when American boxers took a step back and stopped dominating the boxing world like they used to.

    Poor, uneducated guys with nothing like Hagler, Hearns, Dempsey, LaMotta, etc. were all 80s and before fighters.

    Back in the day American fighters were tough and hungry. Now we're Adrien Broner and Paulie. It's so embarrassing to watch. It hurts.
     
  8. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    lmao
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    They also came from developing nations where they didn't have access to food like food stampers do.
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not that it matters, like you said, but Martin has done time
     
  12. Why would immigrants coming from the third world want to take up boxing?

    They'd be just happy to have the basics, most people take up boxing professionally because they want to be rich or are unsatisfasted living with a 15-30k income.
     
  13. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Martin will destroy the robot in R5.
     
  14. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Charles Martin moved away from St Louis when he was 12 years old - to Colorado Springs and then Phoenix, Arizona. He did no fighting on the tough streets.
     
  15. Slavic Fighter

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    Glazkov was the event winner that night. Martin doesn't deserve this