Is Foreman Frazier the greatest win of all time?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Can't fault Tyson for seeking the belt. Spinks was the champion, but he was a light heavyweight trying to begin a reign at heavyweight. Which was never going to happen.

    Not Tyson's fault, but at the same time it is what it is.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't blame Tyson at all, he did what he needed to do. But l don't consider it a historic or even great victory nor do l rate it much of a fight in terms of entertainment value.
     
  3. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Oh come on, Van! Tyson-Spinks was the biggest fight since Ali-Frazier. Bigger than Holmes-C00ney. It was coined SuperFight '88, since the term "SuperFight" had only been invented a year before with Hagler-Leonard (I believe).
     
  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    For 1 round blowouts I watch these particular fights the most for some reason.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    All the hype in the world can't make Spinks anything more than a blown up lightheavyweight.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll assume you've been watching boxing for as long as l have. If so l think you'll agree that often there is a disconnect between what the public thinks and what hard core fans think. The perfect example is the Lewis/Tyson fight. Any knowledgeable, and rational boxing fan had to know how that fight would unfold. In my mind being a bit older than Tyson l was pretty sure how it was going to unfold. And while it may have ended a round or two quicker than l would have thought prior to both men walking into the ring, after that the quick ending was totally predictable. I just watched this fight about 2-3 months ago just to see if after 30 years or so my memory hadn't changed.

    For me at least, the two Ruddock fights were far better.
     
  7. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Oh I completely agree that Tyson was the favorite and that Spinks needed a sledge hammer to even compete that night. But the bout was HUGE in terms of hype surrounding this "event".

    Undefeated Undisputed Champion: Mike Tyson - VS -
    Undefeated Lineal and Ring Champion: Michael Spinks.

    And yes, Tyson was the champion and SPinks was the challenger. There were also many people who picked Spinks to win.

    In terms of competition the Tyson-Ruddock bouts were far more scintillating.
     
  8. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    That's just too bad than. He won the Heavyweight title. Other blown up light heavyweights who won the heavyweight title:

    Fitzsimmons
    Tunney
    Charles
    Patterson
    Moorer
    Jones Jr.


    And the others who lost in heavyweight bids:

    Carpentier
    John Henry Lewis
    Conn
    Moore
    Foster
    Adamek


    :hi:
     
  9. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    They were more scintillating in no small part due Tyson being diminished.
     
  10. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    I have to disagree, once you win a legitimate title you are a heavyweight.
     
  11. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    I disagree with it also. It was a response to Tinman...

     
  12. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Spinks was a heavyweight for 3 years. He won the belt and stayed there. He was a legitimate heavyweight.
     
  13. clark

    clark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Obviously, but that doesn't make it a great fight.
     
  14. clark

    clark Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what? That doesn't mean it was a great win. It's not Tyson's fault Spinks posed no threat to him. Tyson himself doesn't regard this win that highly.
     
  15. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Thanks Sangria!