Jarrell Miller on Wilder: 'he performs at a mediocre level against mediocre fighters'

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  1. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Muhammad Ali >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lennox Lewis
    Joe Frazier
    George Foreman
    Joe Louis
    Rocky Marciano
    Larry Holmes
    Evander Holyfield
    Mike Tyson
    Riddick Bowe
    Sonny Liston
    Jack Johnson
    Gene Tunney
    Ezzard Charles
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yet the UK has the most paper champs of all time. Gotta credit Hearn though, hate him all you want but he's a great promoter for his fighters.
     
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    Miller is an idiot, but what he's saying is correct: If Wilder was any good he would blow away mediocre opposition, not go life and death with them.
     
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    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm hoping you don't truly think everyone on that list is better than lewis. we have firsthand knowledge bowe, tyson, and holyfield aren't.
     
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    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you can say that about fury too.
     
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    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I took it as him putting Lewis 2nd on his list. Which is asinine anyway because Louis should be 1st and Ali #2, or Louis should be #2 at the very least if you like to give credit to Ali for losing more in his era than pulling an upset.
     
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    Ok but Fury has a win over Wlad. I woudln't be ripping Wilder if he beat Wlad.
     
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    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    granted, but aside from that his resume is horrible.
     
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    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Yeah because 2002 17 year pro Mike Tyson and twice beaten by Bowe 1999 16 year pro Holyfieldx2, is a great measuring stick for the awesomeness that is Lennox Lewis.:roll: The only time he and Bowe fought were in the ams, so that's not relevant.

    Prime Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe would have in all likelihood decapitated Lewis and you know it.
     
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    Fury appears crazy and all, but less fabricated than Wilder to me. Wilder's career seems carefully planned, manufactured. They KNOW he's vulnerable and do not want to take any risk whatsoever. Fury seems less concerned (or just more naive), for all I thought he would get brutally knocked out by Wlad.
     
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    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    No I meant it as, our laundry list of Heavies is a little more impressive than the UK's. Since it contains 1 ATG.
     
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    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bowe stunk, nothing on his resume except holyfield. holyfield went .500 or worse against top flight fighters. prime tyson probably decapitates him.
     
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    Maybe Lewis would have beaten Bowe, but that's not a given, Bowe's chin was good enough and Lewis' was weak enough that he could have KO'd the Lewis that lost to McCall, I may be a little biased, I'm a big Bowe fan, but Lewis would have had little to no chance against the other two.
     
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    bowe thought it was a given. he pulled one of the most cowardly acts in boxing history. while in his prime, btw. like i said, holyfield went .500 or worse against every top flight hw he faced. aside from shot tyson, and fat mid forties foreman, holyfield is waaaay overrated.
     
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    plank46 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    bowe had to fight dirty to beat pierre coetzer. well, didn't have to, but did because he couldn't stop him any other way.
     
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