Why does size matter?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    And in seven hundred years, most great heavyweight champions won't fall within this chart. There will be a tiny fraction of great heavyweights who fall within it.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Dem small gloves was good for pinching da biceps
    an' holdin'
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    yes and when they got bigger they did not fall within this chart. the chart covers 6'9" and seven footers too. why dont they fall within the chart anymore? they are so overdeveloped now. weight is so important only the tallest can carry it all.
     
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    Within ten years the US military probably scraps the chart and goes 100% drone
     
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    Is that a long way of saying they got bigger ?
     
  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    thats now!! only a tiny fraction are in it NOW. you wont have to wait seven hundred years.
     
  7. choklab

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    its a way of saying something changed dramatically. the human species has not changed that dramatically because the army still requires men in the same proportion as world heavyweight champions used to be like. there would be no fit men in the army if the population developed itself as the elite heavyweight has.
     
  8. choklab

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    okay so the very smalest gloves prior to the filmed era there was more holding even though it was under the quesbury rules. i can accept that part if you like. the joe louis (which may have had less holding than now)era still fought with much smaller gloves than now. 6oz and that went all the way up to 1956 in title fights. 10oz came in i think for title fights in the mid 1980s
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I'm sure I've seen bodybuilders or UFC fighters who are US army.
    Maybe they were US marines.

    Joe Louis was probably way over 220 pounds when he was actually serving in the military.

    I don't know why you say something has changed dramatically. They got a bit heavier, that's all.
     
  10. McGrain

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    No; some of these fights were filmed and can be seen on YouTube.

    The point is, you are trying to marry excessive holding to larger gloves; this arc does not exist. More holding took place with the smallest gloves.
     
  11. McGrain

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    No, most great heavyweights fall into it now.

    Jesus Christ, that was your whole point.
     
  12. choklab

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    its more than a bit isnt it?
     
  13. choklab

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    the division as it is now is off the chart.

    you are correct. the greatest of all time up to the present are all within this chart

    in seven hundred years there will be more great fighters hopefully. lets hope from now till then there might be changes in the sport to improve things.
     
  14. mostobviousalt

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    Sprinters have also become heavier, the horror.
     
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    Height for height, they've become a bit heavier.
    Of course, they have become a bit taller too, so that equates to a lot heavier.
    For example, Wladimir Klitschko is a lot heavier than Rocky Marciano.