Who does Marciano beat?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Hagler ain't Marciano.
    Golovkin is a more apt conparison.
    And he gives the best cruiserwieghts in the world all the hell they can handle in sparring.
    An he is purported to hit harder than the number 3 ranked HW of the world Povetkin.


    Add 20lb pure frame on top of that, even stronger punches, and what do you get? A scary ****ing monster capable of taking any humans head off no matter their size.
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    But that being said, if he was scheduled to face Usyk in his next fight he'd be a sizeable underdog.
     
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    Jumping from MW to Usyk, unproven st the new weight? Of course.

    Give him 20lb of frame, and it would probably be a different story.
     
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    Don't see why not.
     
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    The only way it would be a different story would if he'd previously beaten the likes of Gassiev and Lebedev.

    Of course he'd be an underdog for those fights as well though which further process my point.
     
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    I am sure you are right, but that still leaves you the possibility that they were successful simply because they were big (the charge thrown at Carnera).
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yeah but if he had 20lb of frame he would be fighting them guys. And since he's handling them at 168, I'd put a lot of money that he handles them at 190 too.
     
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    The you'd win a lot more money as he'd be a decent underdog.
     
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    Assuming he wasn't already making a career tearing those guys up. Which is unlikely.
     
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    This is a fairly good assessment of fighters who could/couldn't beat Rocky, although I think a prime Jack Dempsey would give Marciano more than a good run for his money, and in my opinion, he would have been handed a boxing lesson by a prime Holmes.
     
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    That's a very generous assessment imo.
     
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    He can beat Frazier , Rock had one punch KO power,maybe Johnson, Tyson lost every time he got in a fight , Tua beat nobody, A prime Louis would be a great fight, Rocky dynamites Holyfield ,Wlad has that problem with getting hurt, Bowe might get a decision ,Peter? really? Holmes could get a decision but 15 rounds is a long way,Fury? he's on the bum of the month tour, Ibeabuchi? one win over Tua who beat who Ruiz?
     
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    My Opinion. modern ruleset. 15 round match. ((somewhat more focusing on wins))

    Rocky Wins by KO/TKO
    Earnie Shavers
    Floyd Patterson
    Ingemar Johansson
    Deontay Wilder
    John Ruiz
    Max Baer
    Jack Johnson
    Michael Spinks
    Trevor Berbick
    Jim Jeffries
    Luis Firpo
    Harry Wills
    Tyrell Biggs
    Chuck Wepner
    Braddock
    Jim Corbett
    John L.
    Fitzsimmons
    Gunboat Smith
    Tommy Burns
    Joe Jeanette
    Jess Willard
    Tom Sharkey
    Tony Galento
    Billy Miske
    Fireman Jim Flynn
    Frank Moran
    Frank Bruno

    Rocky Decision Win
    Ezzard Charles (Prime)
    Walcott (Prime)
    Archie Moore (Prime)
    Tommy Gibbons
    Jack Sharkey (in his right mind)
    David Tua
    Bill Brennan
    1990's Foreman

    Rocky Decision Loss
    Ali
    Sonny Liston (Competitive)
    Joe Louis (Prime, Maybe by KO?)
    Larry Holmes
    Holyfield
    Tyson Fury
    Both Klitschkos
    Lennox Lewis
    Bowe
    Ken Norton
    Jimmy Young

    Rocky Loses by KO/TKO
    Jack Dempsey
    Mike Tyson
    George Foreman (Prime)

    Not Sure/Tossup
    Joe Frazier
    Anthony Joshua
    Max Schmelling
    Sam Langford
    Gene Tunney
    Jerry Quarry
     
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    There was really a lot to Marciano's style. He was not some mindless slugger.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I think he beats Jack Johnson in this list.