Mike Tyson "weak" opposition

I think you need to check out some old threads on this.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/tyson-vs-tillis-who-really-won.255919/

 

You must have seen a different fight to anyone else, Tillis

What's that got to do with the price of bacon?

 

why?I watched the fight first time round.

 

Shavers couldn't hold a candle to Foreman as a finished, bad example.

 

Tyson had all those title fight wins but the reality is Trevor Berbick or Tony Tucker might be the best fighter he ever beat.
With that in mind it's hard to argue his opposition wasn't a bit weak.

 

I am the first to admit this was a valuable learning fight that should have no baring on the champion Tyson became, however, Tillis was a close, competitive fight.

If Tubbs or Thomas had been as active against relevant fighters as Tillis recently had going into his fight with Mike then when it was Tubbs and Thomas turn to meet Tyson they might have produced better opposition than they did in championship fights.

 

Very few here don't know that Ali beat a poor version of Williams, and quite a few hold up a pre-1989 Tyson as invincible. Hell, it's pretty common to see posters say that Tyson was the over the hill fighter against Holy.

Tyson gets more passes for prime or near prime losses than perhaps anyone bar Duran.

 

I would say average, rather. Marciano, Dempsey or Wlad didn't have superior opp. A similar case could be made for Johnson, and while Louis's win(s) over Walcott probably is better than anything Tyson has, it's not a huge difference. Louis being past his best at the time gives it a boost, though.

 

It's interesting to compare Tyson's title run with Golovkin's. I'd say that Berbick, Smith, Tucker, Spinks and Williams were all at least on the level of Geale and Lemieux. Jacobs is probably better than anyone Tyson beat, but I had that fight a draw on the other hand.

 

Still think that was an underrated list of fighters on tysons cv. They we,re almost all good allround boxers. Douglas showed what he could do giving the chance against tyson. Tyson turned up lethargic looked undertrained etc. Bearing that in mind tho douglas would have been another on his list of opponents people would have called hopeless if tyson did end up beating him.

He showed on the night tho how good he really was. Very few weaknesses to douglas,s game that nite. For me personally it was all down to tyson not being prepared for it etc. But it did show that douglas as well as the other guys tyson battered in his reign of terror we,re anything but mugs.

 

I'd say a few of Louis's opposition were better. Marciano had Walcott too, of course.
But I agree Tyson's opposition was only relatively weak, and average is probably more accurate.