Nat Fleisher's Top 10 Heavyweights

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The Liston quitter rep is sham logic applied very unevenly across the champions of the sport.

    Hell, Ali quit against Holmes so he must be sh*te, I guess.
     
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  2. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ^^^ Don't forget about Duran .. probably 9 outta 10 posters would give him a pass
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sonny Liston quit in his corner. Muhammad Ali quit in his corner. Joe Frazier quit in his corner. Mike Tyson quit in his corner. Vitali Klitscho quit in his corner. Wlad Klitschko quit in his corner. Max Schmeling quit in his corner. Jess Williard quit in his corner.

    Sugar Ray Robinson quit in his corner. Roberto Duran quit at least twice (against Leonard and Pat Lawlor). Pernell Whitaker quit (against Carlos Bojorquez). Julio Cesar Chavez Sr quit a handful of times (against Randall II, De La Hoya II, Grover Wiley). Oscar De La Hoya quit (against Pacquiao).
     
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  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Exactly, it's a joke really isn't it.
     
  5. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What did he get banned for? Come to think of it, what *does* one get banned for?
     
  6. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Grandson? For some reason I had the impression you were a young guy, around twenty-five.
     
  7. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    There are a number of reasons some of which are silly. I have personally experienced having threads "disappeared" without any notification or explanation just to look and see it was no longer there. I later learned that it had been deleted by a moderator because he felt the thread was inappropriate because it asked how old you were when you watched your first major fight and which fight it was. Again, no indication that this violated a forum rule.
    It apparently was deemed inappropriate by a "chin checker" moderator who is arbitrary and enjoys welding power.
    I doubt he has posted anything interesting or thought provoking whereas Perry through his bluster has interesting to relay.
    Perhaps communists aren't the best choices to moderate in a marketplace of ideas. Historically they don't play well with free speech.
    Bottomline, he may not have even had any idea he was committing a "speech crime", it was simply a case of the right word going in the wrong ear.
     
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  8. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Well, both totalitarian censors and markets are horrible ways to filter out bad ideas and ensure the spread of good ones.
    In totalitarian societies, you may be forbidden outright from reading certain material, but everyone with three functioning neurons knows the official line is bull**** and seeks out underground sources.

    In "free market" societies no one will stop you by threat of force from seeking out anything short of child porn or military secrets, but you have to go far outside the corporate controlled mainstream to find anything of substance, and most the propaganda is aimed at preventing you from becoming curious or interested in the first place.

    I don't have to ask if you've ever heard the terms "Bremmer rules" or "Russell tribunal" on American television because I know you haven't.
     
  9. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Lol, we are talking about a boxing form. I don't think Perry was booted for anything to do with child porn or military secrets.

    I don't watch much tv but I will take your word for it. You seem a bit angry or frustrated perhaps if you are looking for information or want to discuss Bremmer rules American tv or a boxing forum isn't the best place to look.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Some appear to be here to flaunt their education.We must be due for some more latin about now.
     
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  11. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah, you're right of course but I just can't resist sometimes. It was the reference to communists and the so-called marketplace of ideas that got me going.
     
  12. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Domitus et mortibat via loquious potassium abracadabra doo.
     
  13. mcvey

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    We need novelty and diversion from time to time so,"bitte ge nicht fort ."
     
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  14. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Continue with what, the fake Latin? Die zweigen meinst der klein ver toggen schluabben mit häagen-daz.
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I meant 80 years from now