Joe Louis in the 60 s in place of Ali ?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I've only just noticed to. Its a mystery, he didn't seem the type to be offensive.
     
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    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis's biggest opponents were bigger than Ali's and unlike Ali he actually faced world-class opponents who were 240+. The 70s are an era before skilled giant heavyweights
     
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    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Can anyone give me any explanation for why anyone is booted? It appears to be entirely at the whim of unseen moderators, who so far as I'm aware never deign to explain their reasoning -no doubt because no remotely consistent principle is applied.

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  4. mcvey

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    I don't think Louis was a drinker until long after he retired.
     
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    I missed whatever it was too.
     
  6. Matt Bargas

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    Shavers? He KOd numerous heavies. They are all on his Wikipedia page. You can look up their weights.
     
  7. The Senator

    The Senator Active Member Full Member

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    Same here. And yet, Luthercorps remains active on the boards, but hey. In Memory of Jake LaMotta seemed like a decent guy around here, and it's strange to me that he'd get kicked like that.

    Back on topic, I'd say that Louis would do pretty well against most of Ali's foes, and if he's fighting Ali's schedule, I think he can manage pretty well up until Frazier and Foreman. Frazier and Louis would be tremendous. Foreman likely eradicates him, I hate to say. Liston would be a rough test if he shows up to fight, a healthy Patterson would be trouble, but Patterson with a bad back would be a feast for Louis's fists. I actually think he'd fare better against Norton, and would dust his chin with a big combination, and I think Jimmy Young gives an aging Louis a nightmarish matchup.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Joe would of become a heroin addict during the war like a third of GI`s did during the horrors of the nam, he might not of wanted to see any violence after that mess!
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    If Shavers caught Louis with the punches that gave Ali brain damage and the right that dropped Holmes Louis would still be on the canvas now!
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Defending a wife beater, lol!
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Eventually Louis became a cocaine addict also.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ali aged pretty quick because he wasn`t as fast after his three year lay off but Holmes said when he joined Ali`s camp in the mid 70`s he wasn`t training properly so that might be the reason.
     
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    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ali could take a better punch than Louis that hook he was hit with in the last round v Frazier that decked him would have knocked Louis out cold.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ali completely dominated Paterson and if Cooper caught Louis with the hook that decked him in the first fight he would haver knocked Louis out that`s why when they had a rematch Ali lost weight for more mobility to take away the hook coming towards Cooper was dangerous.
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Out jabbing Holmes would take some doing I feel Louis may of had to knock Holmes out.