Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

The cynic in me has considered this and if it turns out to be the case it’ll only benefit cornholio. At this stage, Golovkin will never get better, only older. The same can’t be said for Alvarez. This leads to a lot of speculation and conspiracy stuff; did the golden tranny pay off the NSAC allowing them to look tough while actually harming GGG?
If it does turn out to be a full year, however, that’s a big blow to Oscar - his company will lose out on at least 10 million with their only cash cow on the sidelines.

 

Yeah this has been one huge elaborate conspiracy to harm GGG. LOL

 

Actually, the hearing was set for April 18th because that is the date of the regularly scheduled NSAC Monthly meeting, when the 5 members of the commission were going to meet anyway. Also it will give the lawyers time to prepare their cases.

NSAC has come under a lot of criticism in the last few years, and they are trying to do things this time with transparency and by the rules.

Which is a good reason to believe Canelo won’t get the benefit of the favoritism he’s gotten in the past.

 

If I were Canelo, I would pull the plug on Vegas entirely if they screwed up this fight. The Nevada Comission has to be wincing at what the state could lose if they cause the fight to be cancelled.

 

Doping has been here for ages and it’s here to stay. There’s absolutely no way that you can be a serious fan of any sport without being aware of rumors and positive tests. I used to be pretty outraged that athletes would dope and break records but lately I’ve changed my mind - I don’t blame one bit. Hear me out: I’m not saying PEDs should be legal but I also cannot see any realistic scenario where they’re gone. There’s simply too much at stake for an athlete not to dope. Whether it’s millions of dollars, a gold medal, national pride or just fierce competitiveness, PED bell cant be unrung. Rock stars are celebrated for their use of hardcore drugs and are revered as icons - Hendrix, John Lennon, Clapton, Cobain, even Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash. Celebrities are expected to do coke regularly and yet we seem to get bent out of shape when we find out that athletes that compete in sports actually use substances that will make them better at the sport they compete in! Why is that?
I think if you adopt the attitude that it’s sport entertainment and not some morally pure endeavor where the superstar athlete visits little Timmy in the orphans cancer ward promising to hit a homerun then things begin to look more realistic.
What’re your thoughts?

 

It still doesn't make up for allowing IV use in the biggest fight ever. But its a start.

 

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Bunch of salty mofos.

If you don't want me to merge your threads, simple, don't make ones that are unnecessary embellishments upon or rehashes of a redundant garbage-dump topic which is going to clutter up the forum and siphon attention from other subjects. Especially topics inherently tangential and pertaining to "outside the ring" stuff in the first place.

I love when people are like "yeah I understand IB doing that...until it comes to my precious thread!!!!" The way I look at it is, if you're only on here to talk about the same handful of things as all the trolls and casuals, if you can't find anything else to make a thread on, you probably shouldn't even have thread making privileges in the first place because you're not really contributing anything worthwhile.

Any one that got assimilated wasn't a "keeper", trust me. Kill your darlings, guys.

 

It's cheating plain and simple. It's not kosher when I watch Formula 1 and it's not okay in Boxing either, especially Boxing. There will always be cheaters, in sports and in life. We still have to remain vigilant otherwise what's the point?

 

I guess what I’m trying to say is that an athlete would almost be stupid to not dope. Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather- the list goes on - built multimillion dollar empires for themselves with pharmaceutical assistance. Marquez stamped his name into Mexican folklore with a brutal one punch knockout of his most hated rival with steroids. Do you think any of these guys regret the occasional needle in their ass’?

 

I guess the point is that it’s way out of our hands and rewards far outweigh the risks so athletes are going to do it. And again, if you focus on just the entertainment aspect with the athletic aspect we won’t be outraged. People love the nfl. Baseball never did as big as numbers as they did during the homerun record chase. Cycling was more huge during lances reign than ever before. The British are more into cycling before now that they have a couple Tour de France winners. Tennis had blacks watching when the Williams brothers were dominating. I’m saying most fans simply don’t care.

 

I don’t like it, but it is what it is. I’m not going to praise athletes, especially in a violent sport like boxing, for using PEDs. But I’m not going to be like “omg you’re the devil, you dirty cheat”. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the way it is, lots of athletes look for an edge and will take PEDs to perform better whether it is allow them to train harder, give them better stamina, cut weight, recover quicker from injuries, etc...

The way people get up in arms regarding baseball PED users is kind of ridiculous to me when they look at steroids/HGH as some sort of evil drug but don’t care that MLB players have been taking speed for decades. People just downplay that sort of PED use, when amphetamines (nowadays Ritalin and Adderall are still used quite a bit) are more dangerous than steroids and HGH. A lot of it is just because the steroid use came along with HR records being broken (there were other factors as well).

The players in the 50s and 60s took the drug which they thought would help them the most. I like Tom Verducci as a writer, but I don’t buy his “steroids are so much worse than speed because they change your body and work better”. I find it illogical that all these players, who popped speed pills like candy, would refuse to take a less dangerous drug like steroids/HGH on the basis that these PEDs might work BETTER than the speed there were taking. That makes little sense to me

 

That's typical NSAC -
Never Sentence Any ClenbuteNelo
Nevada Supports for Athletic Corruption

 

GGG vs Canelo 2 is getting canceled
BJS, Murata, Jacobs are unavailable.
Andrade and Derevyanchenko will not get a shot against the #1 middleweight
Tom Loeffler and GoldenBoy will arrange a GGG vs Spike fight for May 5th.

 

I sadly accepted this reality when Roy Jones got called out for Ripped Fuel, suddenly lost his ripped physique, along with punching power.
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/when-roy-jones-tested-positive-for-peds.455083/

Then Pacman on testing 1st said he was afraid of needles (while ta-figgin-tooed up) Then he said well its my religion, yeah the bible says thou shalt not poketh thy body....

 

A lot of those guys will pay for it later in their lives. I'm more familiar with doping in cycling and let me tell you there are deaths, quite a few deaths going back thru the years. Cyclist used to chew coca leaves while climbing Ventoux back in the iirc the 60s. There were deaths cuz guys got too spaced out and fell off the mountain. There's a few deaths each year it seems from some nubs cardiac arrest because he let his blood get too thick and fell asleep, heart attack in his sleep. Bad **** does happen, you just don't hear about it. Don't forget the East Germans with their platoon of Williams brothers, actually had their sexes changed because of their overuse of steroids lol. Btw, iirc in 2004 there was something like 10 deaths in Cycling from doping. That's why I can't take this bourgeoisie stance towards it.

That said I fully understand why they do it, the financial gains, the fame, and success but at the end of the day I'd rather rate guys on their abilities and not how much money was thrown at their doping program.