Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

Again, Kelly was an NABF, MW champ in 2006, forging his own path. Why would he have wanted to have fought Joe at that stage? The bigger question, is: why on earth was Joe targeting unknown MW's after beating Lacy?

Again, it wasn't smart business to fight Roy. A fight against Kelly would have made more money at the end of 2008.

 

bailey,

How can you be taken seriously?

Joe himself said that Roy was washed up. You know this.

Roy obviously didn't beat the version of Tito that Bernard did. The version of Tito that Roy beat, hadn't fought in over 3 years, and he couldn't even make the agreed upon C-W of 170 pounds.

Only because he had just 3 more fights at the weight. Two of them were against B and C class guys in Sheika and Lacy, and the other was against Bernard in a foul fest joke.

 

There is no agenda.

Again, find me a credible link of where Frank and Joe were willing to fight Roy at LHW in the U.S.

Because unless Roy had've been paid huge money, he would not have travelled to Britain and dropped back down to a division he'd left over 4 years earlier.

The best fighter in the world flying to Wales to fight a relatively unknown WBO holder st SMW, was an absolute fantasy.

Showtime wanted to Joe to showcase his talents in the U.S. but he wasn't interested. Those quotes from your links are absolutely worthless.

He claimed he wanted Roy, yet he then carried on killing himself to make SMW, to fight: McIntyre, Mitchell, Jiminez and Brewer.

One day, it might actually occur to you that what he said in those interviews was absolute nonsense.

 

I don't know if you're being serious here or whether you're just being argumentative.

I have given you a direct quote of Andre's, where he revealed his concerns leading up to the fight.

Yes, you have also given me a direct quote. But it's not from 2011. It's from 6 years later, where he doesn't discuss his pre-fight concerns. That doesn't mean that he didn't have any.

Once again, I've acknowledged that he didn't know he'd broken his hand until after it was confirmed after the fight. However, as per my link, it was a big concern for him going into the fight.

You're just digging your heels in, trying to save face.

You doubted whether or not he had an issue going into the fight, and I've proved to you beyond doubt that he did.

There's nothing else to say on the matter.

 

So what if he fought out of Britain 4 times?

 

Chad was more comfortable at LHW, where although he faced older fighters, they were relevant fighters, who were still names in the U.S.

What difference does it make?

Joe's biggest win was against a 43 year old Hopkins.

 

How much did he make?

 

Ward fought a few tune ups due to inactivity, before taking on a huge threat in Kovalev.

A guy who you had huge respect for at the time.

 

I can't remember off of the top of my head. I'd have to research it. He still made a lot of money, but the point is, he obviously didn't take that fight purely for financial reasons.

It was Roy's name that he wanted. He wanted the name of the best fighter of his era on his resume before he retired.

 

Why did he fight Roy instead of Pavlik in late 08? Could it be they were both offered a **** load of money? & Kelly had already
signed to fight Bhop in July for an October fight so 2008 was out the window wasn't it? & considering this too (his career plan/trajectory, which has already been explained to you & acknowledged by you on this page so I don't know why you are asking):

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...-resume-vs-joe-calzaghe-resume.563886/page-12

& Bhop subsequently killing Pavliks momentum (basically schooling him & ruining him) I suspect at 37 (& taking all the above into account) he was satisfied & probably never gave Kelly another thought really after he'd cashed out against Jones ..

https://www.google.com/amp/www.skys...ews/12183/3851479/pavlik-agrees-hopkins-fight

Stop worrying so much about his finances bro, he's fine I'm sure.. & it works both ways anyway, did Kellys team approach his team after he had beat Bhop or did he just talk a lot in the media?

 

Well you're the expert..

 

it is around 2.

ward was in a unification contest with career high paydays, in his very first title fight as a smw. you will recall he beat kessler, calzaghes best win after 20 title fights.

let me know how to avoided unification and high paydays by entering the super 6 unification contest

 

Ref Kelly, No by the time Joe fought Roy Joe had sacked Warren and promoted himself ( Just as Hatton had done ) for more $$$$$$'s and that action in itself rendered the Roy fight financially attainable but in all honesty I remember Joe saying that about Roy but I also recall the respect Joe showed Roy post his fight with Bernard and I think that's why the fight got made , to Joe having Roy on his record meant Jack to Joe as he was well aware it was time for them to both go as they were both well over boxing for titles and prestige , the fight was purely business and it showed how much respect Joe had for Roy (you just gotta look at the 50-50 split to see that Joe is a classy fella ) now I have to run before Beryl involves me in a week long convo as I'm off to Greece for a bit of sun . Enjoy the fights lads and play nice .

 

it made sense for joe to avoid kelly and froch and dawson since three defeats would have ruined his undefeated record.

 

I sincerely hope my Mrs respected my request of having Zero Wi-Fi at
Our Greek Digs , his thread is like trying not to slow down to catch a glimpse of a bad Road Traffic Accident lol