Could Carl win a rematch?

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  1. Judge 1

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    Spartacus are we the only ones that think Jamie Moor corner work wasn’t great to say the least and no Frampton couldn’t win a rematch in fact I think he gets stopped before the 6th imo
     
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    With Shane McGuigan, yes.
     
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    I’m Sparticus...
     
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    Bensub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not for me, Warrington looked like he could do 15 rounds at that pace easy. And I have never thought Frampton is a featherweight.
     
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    No i am sparticus!
     
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  6. BigDoofus

    BigDoofus Active Member Full Member

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    Stick a fork in him, he's done.
     
  7. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    Maybe Jamie is just trying to be friendly to Carl, it was the Irish press I suppose.
    I do agree with you judge, Jamie's cornerwork wasn't the best that night. I was there and I managed to get pretty close to the ring. Team Frampton looked like they'd lost before the fight, whether that was down to the Murray loss I don't know but u shouldn't take that in with you into your next fighters fight.
    I think Jamie is a really nice fella but I'm not sold on him as a high level trainer yet, he needs more experience and that experience shouldn't come at the cost of his fighters taking a L.
     
  8. williams7383

    williams7383 TKO 6 Klit Lickers Full Member

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    I'd back Warrington by stoppage second time round.. He knows Frampton can't hurt him and probably takes more risks second time round to show him the doors midway
     
  9. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Warrington is to good so no-way.
     
  10. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    But is that true though ? By that I mean is it a case of "too good for frampton" or " all wrong for frampton". There is a difference. A bigger higher workrate guy like Josh is always going to give a smaller lower workrate guy like Carl problems. I'd be interested to see how Josh fares with a guy that has similar workrate to himself, like Oscar Valdez. I'm still not totally convinced Josh is all that "good" overall. Although he really impressed me with some of his subtle lateral movement and constantly shifting , circling etc that never allowed Carl to settle and tee off. He is definitely more than just a brainless windmiller, that's for sure. For me however he is still somewhat unproven simply because of the physical advantages he's had over his two "big wins" opponents. . Selby (weight drained halfway to death) and Carl (size reach freshness).
     
  11. Blue Manc

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    I think we as boxing fans have all been surprised by Warrington's progression over the last year. Think it's time we all get behind him and class him as one of our best fighters cos he is!
     
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  12. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Myself Len I feel Warrington is the best of the belt holders fingers crossed thay will meet each other in 2019.
    Sorry to say Carl will never beat Josh he has to much for Frampton.
     
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    No. I like Carl but he is too small. Josh was too big, young and fresh for him.
     
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    Strong hints from Carl that he fancies a rematch:

    [url]https://www.*******.com/frampton-believes-he-beat-warrington-if-he-sticks-plan--135097[/url]

    I have to say I'm torn here. Having re-watched their fight Carl didn't do as bad as I thought at the time. He definitely won some rounds when he boxed. But. ..!!! He never used his jab at all. ..(neither did Josh) . So that is one Avenue Carl might have better success with - more jabs. In fact Carl fought virtually one handed. ..almost all his success came with right hands. His left jab got left in the dressing room, and he was very poor with his left hook. Very poor. He swung wide and high with crude left hooks and most missed Josh completely. To have any hope in a rematch Carl would have to be much better with his left hand. Also maybe Carl could do more body punching, again particularly with the left hook.

    But I'm not sure Carl can find an answer to Josh's relentless approach. Plus Josh is still gonna be bigger and fresher. It's hard to stick to a game plan if you're being swamped. Carl hit Josh with plenty of hard right hands but never seemed to hurt Josh, or even discourage him... . and in any case they were only single shots, he never followed through with lefts, combos never really worked the body etc etc. He would need to be a lot more two-fisted in any rematch. Re-watching their fight It's hard to pick out Carl having any success with multi-punch combinations....the odd one -two was pretty much the limit of his success. This won't beat Josh warrington.
     
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    It was a clear emphatic win so no, given Warrington would have confidence as well as a blueprint to beat him a second time. Call me cynical but Frampton probably after a retirement fund.