Kellerman Says Pac Is Top 10 ATG; Ranks Higher Than Floyd...

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  1. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one is laughing at roy Jones though are they, and if they are then they are not true boxing fans in my eyes.
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Plenty of people on this very forum have laughed and clowned rjj. Hes always brought up in any glass jaw discussion.
     
  3. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree that many fans do look at it that way, but should his legacy really take a big hit for these losses while shot? I always feel that RJJ gets underrated these days, losses taken when clearly done / shot should not count that significantly against a fighter IMHO. I prefer to remember the achievements of a fighter and what they do once old and shot is of little interest to me.

    I think time will smile more kindly on RJJ. Muhammad Ali is not remembered for losing to Berbick, Holmes, or Spinks … and I don't think people hold these against him much; he was clearly done by then.
     
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    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then I feel sorry for them, if they laugh at a legend for clinging to the sport and the lifestyle he loves at the potential expense of his health, that man never damaged his legacy. That’s not even possible.
     
  5. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Completely agree with that mate. Spot on
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    Fair post.
    I still think he's great and in his prime was a boxing god but he's been bashed here alot for his loses and chin.
     
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  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Pac was blatantly robbed un the Floyd fight by
    Floyd , Bob Bennett & the NSAC Vegas boxing & USADA. Did anyone ask if Floyd ticked the right box & that's why he got that TUE three weeks after being caught cheating ???
    Mayweather:pipiPacquaio & it aint even close I'm sure PimoC is really Leonard Ellerbee the way he idolises that little cheat
     
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  8. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not close? Head to head ?118-110 forever and yes pac only won the 4th and 6th.
     
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  9. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Why don't you quote the most popular score? 116-112 twice... I mean, if you're gonna use scorecards as the end all.

    Dummy.

    And why don't you mention Floyd's obvious doping?
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    They would also be factually incorrect.

    Mayweather debuted at 19 years old in the SuperFeatherweight division. He then fought guys like Reggie Nelson and struggled at 19. Reggie Nelson is like 10-50 career record by the way.

    Meanwhile Pacquiao at 19 was knocking out the best Flyweight in the world for the Lineal 112 pound title.
     
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  11. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    On two weeks notice.

    :deal:
     
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  12. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    yessir.
     
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  13. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    8 division world titlist and a better resume. Anyone who is knowledgeable and not biased has Pac ahead of FlIVd. FlIVds resume doesnt hold up on close inspection.
     
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  14. ray fritz

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    Thanks PA your great did Max give top 10,whats yours PA your pretty good
     
  15. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    The comparison doesn’t hold up well, Kiwi; Ali was not knocked unconscious by one single punch thrown by a man he had just beaten months prior. Not only that, but Ali had been in many wars prior whereas Jones probably hadn’t even been hit clean 50 times in his entire career up until then.
    Also, let’s throw in that it’s often the case that when a formerly great champ gets beaten into submission it’s usually by a future great champ on his way up, like Holmes. In Roy’s case, Tarver was always known as an underachiever who would go on to be pretty unspectacular other than his rematch with Roy.