Michalkzewski HOF worthy?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Liquorice, Feb 19, 2019.

?

HOF worthy?

  1. Yes

    33 vote(s)
    86.8%
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    13.2%
  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2010
    Messages:
    41,974
    Likes Received:
    4,027
    no wbo was then invalid title
     
    Badbot likes this.
  2. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    9,556
    Likes Received:
    6,352
    HOF doesn't work this way. You don't get in based on a few wins over other HOFers.
     
    Badbot and HerolGee like this.
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    40,832
    Likes Received:
    10,198
    I think he could get in one day.

    A very tough fighter.

    Two important questions to ask though:

    1. Why did he feign injury in order to get Roch disqualified in their first fight? (very out of character)

    2. Why didn't he drop the WBO belt after he'd beaten Hill for the WBA and IBF titles?
     
    Badbot likes this.
  4. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,515
    Likes Received:
    7,682
    This content is protected
     
    pistal47 and Loudon like this.
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    9,556
    Likes Received:
    6,352
    Regarding #2, the WBO was very lightly regarded back then. It's only in the last, I'd say, 10 years it gained status along the other belts. NOt to mention, historically, their rankings have been some of the worst.

    I never understood why DM (And Joe C to an extent) were so complacent w/ their WBO titles. They also seemed to stave off unification w/ other belts.
     
    Badbot likes this.
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2011
    Messages:
    46,375
    Likes Received:
    34,566
    Ricky Hatton defended the World Boxing Union (1995-2004) Super Lightweight Title 15 times :lol::facepalm:
     
  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    9,556
    Likes Received:
    6,352
    True. But at least he was active as hell doing so.
     
    Badbot likes this.
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    40,832
    Likes Received:
    10,198
    For many years, I believed that Dariusz was unfairly stripped of his 2 titles that he won from Virgil Hill. But over the last few years, my opinion has changed.

    I've read that other WBO champs were also stripped of their titles, both before and after Dariusz, as the other main organisations didn't recognise the WBO. And I believe that Dariusz and his advisor simply must have been aware of this, considering that his advisor was an astute businessman, as well as the fact the WBO were originally formed by disgruntled ex-members of the WBA.

    So:

    Could he have kept his 2 main titles had he immediately relinquished his WBO belt?

    Why didn't he immediately relinquish the WBO belt?

    He must have known going into the Hill fight that there were going to be issues afterwards.

    He always gave me the impression that he wasn't too fazed by the decisions. He seemed happy to just keep hold of the WBO belt.

    Regarding Joe, he was too good to repeatedly defend that title. But he obviously kept a hold of it because he was content in doing so, just like Eubank was before him.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2019
    LANCE99 likes this.
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2012
    Messages:
    40,832
    Likes Received:
    10,198
    True.

    It was typical of Frank W's fighters back in the day. But why didn't Dariusz bin his WBO belt as soon as he'd beaten Hill? Because he must have known going into the fight that the WBA would have issues with it.
     
    Badbot likes this.
  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2010
    Messages:
    41,974
    Likes Received:
    4,027
    they kept them to set fake records.
     
  11. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    9,556
    Likes Received:
    6,352
    Thing about these records, with the number of belts we've had for ages now. TWO can do the same record at the same time. Joe C and Sven Ottke basically did the same thing at the same time. Makes both rather rubbish-ish IMO.,
     
    HerolGee likes this.
  12. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2018
    Messages:
    5,975
    Likes Received:
    11,045
    He was a very good fighter but to me he falls short of being a hall of Famer. Would have liked to have seen him against Jones or Maske.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2006
    Messages:
    398,568
    Likes Received:
    80,600
  14. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    17,019
    Likes Received:
    4,518
    Never fighting RJJ hurt his stock

    Best fight at 175 and maybe even in all of boxing at the time

    Still get mad when I think about the fight not happening
     
  15. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2015
    Messages:
    35,855
    Likes Received:
    28,513
    Hasnt the HOF already pretty much established that the bar for admission is less than ATG?