Sam Langford vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Who wins this one?
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    From footage, I'd definitely say Holyfeild but Langford is infinitely more proven and the Footage probably isn't him at his best
     
  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I'd say Holyfield's wins at heavyweight are much better, though Langford is much better P4P.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    What weight?
     
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    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wasnt Langford 5ft 6? How does he beat Holyfield?
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    He beat Wills
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure Wills is a better win than even a past it Tyson.

    Wills was good, but I don't think he was anything that special. His best wins were probably against an aging McVea and Langford.
     
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    He had an impressive streak, but when you look into it, I think Wills's resume gets overstated. It's a bit quantity over quality, and the quality really drops later on.
     
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  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I'm not gonna lie, that reply wasn't meant for you, but the other guy. However I cannot agree that a post prison Tyson for a past it Holyfield is a better win than a Prime wills for an almost completely deteriorated Langford
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    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Trouble is, if Langford was that detiorated by that point, then Will's resume falls apart, since McVea was generally losing to Langford around that time. Wills was pretty green when Langford first KOed him too, though not so much the second time.

    Langford was sliding, but not as much as you're making out, I think it was more of a passing the torch type thing, with Langford's time ending as Wills's began. Langford was more shot in their later fights, but he wasn't actually winning those.

    At heavyweight I suspect Langford and Wills are around the same ball park prime for prime.
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    What I meant is that Langford was not the fighter of years before, also he was much more past it than Holyfeild was against Tyson, or even Lewis.
    The original point was that Wills (of at least the second fight) was a harder fight than Tyson of 96.

    Edit: I agree Wills résumé does basically fall apart with Langford's age
    A little sidenote, Langford was practically blind by the end of his career, and losing sight by that point
     
  12. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry but how did you come to the conclusion that Langford is infinitely more proven than Holyfield?
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Résumé. Nuff said
     
  14. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Qawi, Thomas, Dokes, Douglas, Foreman, Holmes, Bowe x3, Moorer x2, Mercer, Tyson x2, Lewis x2, Rahman, Toney, Byrd, Valuea.

    Langford would have to have one hell of a resume if you think that it was infinitely better and more proven than that one.
     
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yeah, read through it,

    Wills, Gans, McVey, Jack Johnson, OG Joe Walcott (if your including robberies so will I), Ketchel, Jeanette, J Smith, G Smith, Philly O Brian, Jim Johnson, Clark, Norfolk, Tiger Flowers,

    Most of them a good 5/6 times (he fought wills 17 times I believe)

    Also Holyfeild fought Tyson Twice, not 3 times :)
     
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