After the Keith Thurman upset, is Manny Pacquiao a greater fighter than Muhammad Ali?

Exactly, or land on his face completely unconscious, like Pacquaio did

 

1) Again, he's a big Ali fan. I would find it troublesome to rank him top 10 P4P
2) That was in 2013

 

The short answer is no. The long answer is also no.

 

A lot of Anti-Pacman and Floydiots here trying to discredit Pacman's achievements by making absolutely ridiculous comparison just to downplay him.

P.A.T.H.E.T.I.C. plus P.I.T.I.F.U.L. Worst than Maggots
I see nothing less than Jealousy and utter Discrimination to Filipinos

Manny Pacquiao is one of the most accomplished and Humble boxer and person people have known. He does NOT deserve your insults and obvious Racial preferences.

Grow up guys and accept his achievements. This is a sport learn how to accept your losses, have dignity for yourself. The more you discredit a humble Manny, the lower you put yourself.

 

Wow, you sound pretty tough getting riled up on a boxing fourm.

 

That's not true Pacquiao has fought more high quality fighters. He fought 3 ATG's in their prime in the span of 4 fights. But it's pointless to compare Pac to Ali because Ali is a HW. You can't really rate Heavyweights p4p, there is no weight limit. You can only really compare Heavyweights to other Heavyweights.

 

LMAO!!!

 

6 one way, half dozen the other.

 

Like I said previously, if he fights and beats JCC Sr. next, some people on here will move him ahead of Ray Robinson.

 

I don't believe its discrimination against Filipinos. I believe that the guys that rate Ali #1 p4p simply don't know much about boxing beyond the 70's and have fallen for the repeated ad-nauseum hype of "the greatest".

Besides, comparing fighters on a p4p basis is extremely difficult, let's be honest.

How much should a division count? HW is historically a much weaker division skills wise than lower divisions simply because there aren't that many men that size around.

What about decisions that could well be disputed? I can't see how the F Bradley got the decision against Pacman, yet he has the L on his record. On the other hand there are posters that put up a good argument that Ali should be 1 or 2 fights down to Ken Norton.

I agree that the JMM KO was a nasty one and doesn't look good on Pacquiao's record. On the other hand we have little Henry Cooper who dumped Ali on his ass in his prime, and who probably would have finished him off if it wasn't for Ali's corner pulling some shady stunts.

Comparing their skills is likewise not so easy. When Ali looked good, he looked fabulous. But then, same with Pacman.

I think that Pacquiao's career will age better as time goes by and people appreciate what he's done. Ali has the benefit of the rose tinted glasses of yesteryear. I think Pac's ahead of Ali.

 

Not no but **** no. Where is this type of hysteria coming from? The guy lost to a no-hoper earlier in his career lost to a faded EM never beat JMM clearly and got KTFO by him lost to Bradley was schooled by PBF and lost to Horn. How does this equate to being the GOAT? Please enlighten me. He's not even the best of the era let alone the GOAT. BTW The Thurman fight wasn't an upset Pac was favored to win.

 

You can't be greater than Ali when you not only lose to Torrecampo but get knocked out by him. Stop! Pac can't carry Ali's spitbucket different level of fighters here.

 

How? Ali's peak years were taken from him. Beating a faded Erik Morales and a overrated MAB isn't going to make you greater than Ali that's ridiculous.

 

Wow...you need to get that hysterics under control son...people will think you is a pussyclat ...manny has achieved more...full stop brethren